Guest portmuffins Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 can anny one tell me what substance is banned in raceing pigeon point of law you can not be charged unles you know what is banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dont think there is a list of substances , think most are in the dark about it :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 If we had a list we would be none the wiser, take a look at this http://www.canoeicf.com/site/canoeint/if/downloads/antidoping/WADA%20Documents/2008_List_En.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Belgiums caused a stink, and then had to clen their' act up big time. A few household name were caught cheating, via using Cortisan. As most used it any way, with other, that wasn't the problem. It was down to them getting a bad name, and hence sales etc. started dwindling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Belgiums caused a stink, and then had to clen their' act up big time. A few household name were caught cheating, via using Cortisan. As most used it any way, with other, that wasn't the problem. It was down to them getting a bad name, and hence sales etc. started dwindling. YES YOUR CORRECT ROLAND THINK ALL BABIES GOT IT THERE AT ONE TIME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest portmuffins Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Thank i know what you mean i think all pigeon produtcs shoud have lables to say no banned substan like horse produtce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I would like to see a random crate/s selected after a liberation and the droppings sent away to be tested for banned substances, lets see if we have a problem first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest portmuffins Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 good thinking i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen101 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Thank i know what you mean i think all pigeon produtcs shoud have lables to say no banned substan like horse produtce. just wondering if companies know that their ratings and sales will go down with ingrediens not use they dont always state wat is in it would be fascinating to see the products with ingredients that are unstated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 just wondering if companies know that their ratings and sales will go down with ingrediens not use they dont always state wat is in it would be fascinating to see the products with ingredients that are unstated Some would be 100% glucose so cant see that happening ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen101 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 should of put meant on the whole not creaie products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Some would be 100% glucose so cant see that happening ;D ;D ;DA PLACEEBO THEN TONY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I would like to see a random crate/s selected after a liberation and the droppings sent away to be tested for banned substances, lets see if we have a problem first. What are they tested for Who does testing As far as I can see the cost is very high They wont publish if positive for fear of getting litigation A Scottish organisation tested I asked to see report still waiting :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Only my opinion untill proved otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 ;D ;DA PLACEEBO THEN TONY lol 95% of the stuff we give pigeons makes us feel better but does sod all for them ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 What are they tested for Who does testing As far as I can see the cost is very high They wont publish if positive for fear of getting litigation A Scottish organisation tested I asked to see report still waiting :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Only my opinion untill proved otherwise As far as I'm aware the RPRA have testing kits. These tests should be funded by the main unions. I think the tests were in the region of £200 per sample and had to be sent to Sth Africa. They could publish a positive if a crate was tested without fear of litigation.................. but would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 lol 95% of the stuff we give pigeons makes us feel better but does sod all for them ;D lost the feel good factor long time ago Tony , no improvement in birds and didnt feel good with empty pockets :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 As far as I'm aware the RPRA have testing kits. These tests should be funded by the main unions. I think the tests were in the region of £200 per sample and had to be sent to Sth Africa. They could publish a positive if a crate was tested without fear of litigation.................. but would they? Why SA Has anyone ever seen a report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Why SA Has anyone ever seen a report Negative tests on fanciers have been published in the fancy press but have never seen a detailed report. I think Sth Africa was the cheapest. This may have changed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Negative tests on fanciers have been published in the fancy press but have never seen a detailed report. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I think Sth Africa was the cheapest. This may have changed now. :D :D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 ;D ;D You got it in one Tried to send pm not working Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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