Guest mick bowler Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 What do you do with your lazy YBs, the ones that wont fly or only go around a few times before landing?? I had 2, but one caught me at a bad time today, and the other will be heading that way. Different breeds and both were/are healthy, with no obvious abnormalities. I had one or two do it last year and went out pretty soon after training commenced, so is it worth keeping them??
Novice Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 My opinion is that they are not lazy. They are just not as healthy as the loftmates.
Guest cloudview Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 would not worry to much , i had a full team last year that just walked out on the grass , this went on for nearly 3 weeks , they went eventually , just habit they get into
lawrie Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 let it out with the others, they will learn.
Guest mick bowler Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 All the others are now flying hour to hour and a half, they were broomed but still no interest!! I find these will eventually hold the others back, and so affect the whole team instead of one or two. I'm afraid i have no patience when it comes to things like this.
DAVIDL Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 just a thought, but are your birds on dark.....? how far moulting are they as ive had birds which dont want to fly much when they are moulting, maybe sore.....????? j.m.o.
Guest Davy Fleming Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 Mick, are these youngsters sitting on the roof picking the moss
grizzal Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 we had this last year with a nest pair,let them out went round for 5mins and down,as you say the others start to want to land we got rid of these 2 and everything was ok after this. if it happens again will get rid quicker this year
Guest bakes Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 if they was my ybs would look see if there any bacteria infection going on or fungas infection are they eating moss of roof if not i would remove them from the yb team as they will harber the rest of the ybs stopping them from doing what they should be doing when you give them there freedom a healthy yb or any bird should fly for alot longer if there nothink wrong with them as thats what they are born to do fly all the best.
Guest mike hitchin Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 i agree with you bakes remove them before the rest of the team follow suit.
Guest mick bowler Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 My Ybs dont sit on the roof, thats why i hate these just sitting about when the others are flying strong, it draws the others down. They are on the dark but these two were the last ones in, along with their nestmates who are flying well, so not moulting as heavy as some. Both have been removed permanently, although i have just found out the first one was the wrong one, so have lost 3 not 2! ;D
Guest Owen Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 Darkness birds are often slow to get up and fly freely. But the most common cause of lazy youngsters is that they have an illness. If your loft is properly ventilated it should not be respiritory. The most common problem is canker or cocci. I would advise you to have them tested and go from there. If it turns out to be cocci, it is a good idea to test them again after the first treatment is complete. This is because, as with worms, the first treatment does not always fix the problem. You will know if you feed a good mineral mixture every day, fresh. If you have not done this, your birds could be suffering with deficiency. The result of which will be, to reduce their overal fittness and cause them to harbour things like cocci and canker. It is no use you loosing your temper, because that will not fix the problem, you have to improve your management to make serious progress.
nogin Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 Darkness birds are often slow to get up and fly freely. But the most common cause of lazy youngsters is that they have an illness. If your loft is properly ventilated it should not be respiritory. The most common problem is canker or cocci. I would advise you to have them tested and go from there. If it turns out to be cocci, it is a good idea to test them again after the first treatment is complete. This is because, as with worms, the first treatment does not always fix the problem. You will know if you feed a good mineral mixture every day, fresh. If you have not done this, your birds could be suffering with deficiency. The result of which will be, to reduce their overal fittness and cause them to harbour things like cocci and canker. It is no use you loosing your temper, because that will not fix the problem, you have to improve your management to make serious progress. GOOD POST M8
Guest stb- Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 All the others are now flying hour to hour and a half, they were broomed but still no interest!! I find these will eventually hold the others back, and so affect the whole team instead of one or two. I'm afraid i have no patience when it comes to things like this. chap them
Guest mick bowler Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 Darkness birds are often slow to get up and fly freely. But the most common cause of lazy youngsters is that they have an illness. If your loft is properly ventilated it should not be respiritory. The most common problem is canker or cocci. I would advise you to have them tested and go from there. If it turns out to be cocci, it is a good idea to test them again after the first treatment is complete. This is because, as with worms, the first treatment does not always fix the problem. You will know if you feed a good mineral mixture every day, fresh. If you have not done this, your birds could be suffering with deficiency. The result of which will be, to reduce their overal fittness and cause them to harbour things like cocci and canker. It is no use you loosing your temper, because that will not fix the problem, you have to improve your management to make serious progress. Thanks and good advice to a beginner, but i know my way around after 30 years. Main reason for my post is there can sometimes be no reason what so ever for why a YB is lazy, it just seems to be a characteristic in some, and like i say in my experience usually cause more probs than they are worth. I was kind of hoping someone had maybe a miracle answer to why they do it rather than the darkness/moulting/health issues, which i know are not the reasons. Your right about my temper, (and my impatience), i know it is my big minus, but sometimes works in my favour, like today, they could been still sat on a perch tonight eating my food and making a mess for me too clean. I dont like birds with doubts and i have never have regrets, and i'm pretty sure my management is ok.
Wiley Posted March 29, 2010 Report Posted March 29, 2010 the lazy ones, i give them a chance for a while, aslong as they are not having an effect on the main team, only then will these birds be put in a basket, and be taking down the road, to roughly half a mile, if they dont make it home there no use to me, as they can see my house from this area and if they've been on the roof for that long they will know where to land.
demolition man Posted March 29, 2010 Report Posted March 29, 2010 I remember an old mate of mine Roy Calder had a pigeon he called Danger Man as a young bird it would sit on the roof of the loft when the others flew, he sent it training and it would come with the others, I can't remember how wins this cock had but it won many at club fed and combine level. Regards
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