My reply from the RSPB

[Mealy Cock]

Well after a sent a second e-mail to the RSPB they decided reply with yet another stock and copied answer

 

Reply!

 

Dear Michael

Thank you for the email. My apologies for taking time in getting back

to you. With regards to your concerns of the on BOP, having a

devastating affect on the wild population of birds is simply untrue.

The Cause of racing pigeon loss is due to the exposure to many hazards

during the 22-week racing season, Even though peregrines do prey on

racing pigeons it is shown that only a small number are taken by

peregrines.

In Britain, there has been a recovery of Peregrine populations, since

the crash of the 1960s. This has been greatly assisted by conservation

and protection work led by the Society. Peregrines now breed in many

mountainous and coastal areas, especially in the west and north, and

nest in some urban areas, capitalizing on the urban pigeon populations

for food.

The UK peregrines are still under threat from illegal killing and nest

disturbance, particularly on land managed for driven grouse shooting.

The RSPB is working to reduce ALL bird decline, based on the best

available evidence. The available scientific evidence clearly shows

predation by birds of prey does not cause declines in their prey

Predation is a 100% natural process and is I no way "sport". Much like

the African lions predating on Gazelle. It is the food chain and

completely natural. A recent RSPB petition hand-in shows how strongly

the public feels about the need to protect our birds of prey, there

remains a minority who see them as pests to be exterminated.

Even if legislation were not in place to protect birds of prey, killing

or removing even a small number would not be an appropriate or effective

solution. It is unlikely that even killing of raptors on this scale

would make a significant difference to the number of pigeons that return

to lofts each year.

Conservation groups agree with the UK raptor working group's rejection

of any changes to the legal protection of birds of prey. The working

group concluded that there is no legal provision for the licensed

control of birds of prey to prevent losses of smaller birds.

Kind Regards,

 

 

 

This is part of another e-mail

Michael

Our species policy officer has instructed me to point out the

following.

In Britain, there has been a recovery of Peregrine populations, since

the crash of the 1960s. This has been greatly assisted by conservation

and protection work led by the Society. Peregrines now breed in many

mountainous and coastal areas, especially in the west and north, and

nest in some urban areas, capitalizing on the urban pigeon populations

for food.

The UK peregrines are still under threat from illegal killing and nest

disturbance, particularly on land managed for driven grouse shooting.

The RSPB is working to reduce ALL bird decline, based on the best

available evidence. The available scientific evidence clearly shows

predation by birds of prey does not cause declines in their prey

Predation is a 100% natural process and is I no way "sport". Much like

the African lions predating on Gazelle. It is the food chain and

completely natural. A recent RSPB petition hand-in shows how strongly

the public feels about the need to protect our birds of prey, there

remains a minority who see them as pests to be exterminated. Thanks for

the email.

 

They are confirmed idiots and have not got a clue how to reply to question raised, they simple come out

With a stock answer, make dam good politicians  

 

 

 

[Fair Play]

It's just like the propaganda the Nazis spat out during the last war (Which they didn't win) food for thought

[lightning fast]

The available scientific evidence clearly shows

predation by birds of prey does not cause declines in their prey

Predation is a 100% natural process and is I no way "sport". Much like

the African lions predating on Gazelle. It is the food chain and

completely natural

 

 

Why wont they let Eagle Owls roam then, its part of the food chain

[Guest bakes]

The available scientific evidence clearly shows

predation by birds of prey does not cause declines in their prey

Predation is a 100% natural process and is I no way "sport". Much like

the African lions predating on Gazelle. It is the food chain and

completely natural

 

 

Why wont they let Eagle Owls roam then, its part of the food chain

 

the reason why mate as they will loose there pressus pergrines and other pob as dont forget thats what brings the money in for them its a joke one rule for them if its nothink to do with pob there not interested they just keep on releasing more and more i wounder what there answer will be when all songbirds have gone and its just pob about they miz well call them pob charity as thats all there interested in nothink else.

[Mealy Cock]

This is the reply I have just sent.

 

 

 

Thank you for your letter.

 

However it seems you are not prepared to answer my questions and feel

You quite prepared to repeat yourself with stock answers.

I am sorry to say you’re out of touch with what is happening in the real world

A survey by bird watch, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8592300.stm

Is self explanatory. The RSPB stance is the cold weather, funny when I was a lad we had worse winters, the RSPB spokesman says feed the birds in winter

Of which do to some expense, only to be told if we do that the hawks are attracted, come on which do you want?

Since you are a charitable society how’s about showing some form of charity yourselves and replace the birds for the young disabled child I wrote to you about, whose birds have been killed by a hawk, just by flying round the loft, “not racingâ€.

 

Well it may be a long hard process but eventually genuine bird’s lover will have the views aired publicly as it seems more and more influential people are joining in the campaign.

 

Michael

[OLDYELLOW]

same standard email they'll have a list of them as answers , if alls natural then why are more bird species been put on the red list , they have set aside to help wildlife perhaps they themselves have poisoned the birds with mouldy peanuts the facts are this we know theres a problem well actualy three problems , 1 over population of bops 2 , an organisation that wont admit it , 3 the law protects them until a bill is passed through parliment to change the archaic law that should have been reviewed , and why arent the unions doing anything they should be fighting our corner

[rasbull]

This is an email that was sent to me  this morning that has now been posted on the Facebook Action page, makes interesting reading.

 

 

The RSPB work in association with Local Authorities over the peregrine occupying our towns and cities plus the forestry commission in relationship to the goshawk and sparrow hawk, however what they do not shout from the roof tops for obvious reasons is the following.

The forestry commission have a continuous annual logging programme which kills thousands of baby birds in the nest during the breeding season!!Their loophole for this practice is that a bird survey is carried out prior to felling which any ornathologist would admit to being impossible for such vast areas.

The RSPB,their partners in raptor conservation ,accept this and state there is nothing they can do as the forestry commission are a private organisation.

In my area last year a wood at Ampfield in Hampshire was felled/thinned with the known destruction of the nest of a coal tit,great spotted woodpecker,goldcrest,chiff chaffs and a brood of woodcock chicks (excluding the more common species) and when reported to the local press all the RSPB could come up with was the above excuse.

My interpretation of the RSPB was the protection of birds not just specific species to suit their profile!!

 

Kind regards,

 

Roger Hurst

[Roland]

Well simply one, but preferable many, have to bombard sites with evidence. Face book and such should be overrun.

Think the simple fibs that are spouted - like many more, could and should be turned and used against them.

Like only two a day only are killed, so that is 700 a year... and with up to 4  or more youngster bred in each of their two rounds and raised that is timed by 8 which is 5,600 at least more next year ... IF only 3,500 this year. But them when times that by the reality of 35,000 pairs one soon sees that runs into millions of birds killed every year by year and raising fast. Any logical mind can soon see the simple reality that our country side cannot, and will not be able to sustain this. :-/ And that is if it was only 2... evidence shows it is easily 6 and more!

[Roland]

As quoted in the reply '.....A recent RSPB petition hand-in shows how strongly

the public feels about the need to protect our birds of prey,...' that is only because they see the untruths spouted by the RSPB.... Would thay if they saw the carnage first hand? !

Of course not!