european eagle owl

[ChrisMaidment08]

oh well those kids of mine always leaving doors open but thanks for info perhaps you could pop it on preditor site for me

[mick]

give your heads a shake lads    do you know  the first thing  about breeding  birds of prey  ?  do you know  the law regards to  letting  them  go  ?  and   eagle owls  are poerfull  birds  what you  gunna  do  if  the   birds you release  start  attcking  peoples  pet cats  dogs  if they carnt  find any food

[naedoos]

Think there'll be plenty food flying around for them  

[DOVEScot]

give your heads a shake lads    do you know  the first thing  about breeding  birds of prey  ?  do you know  the law regards to  letting  them  go  ?  and   eagle owls  are poerfull  birds  what you  gunna  do  if  the   birds you release  start  attcking  peoples  pet cats  dogs  if they carnt  find any food

 

I think if you read my posts you will find I know a fair bit about birds of prey and breeding them, yes eagle owls are powerful birds and I am sure there will be the odd attack but like any other bird of prey it is free to attack anything it considers food, just like the perigrines and sparrow hawks attacking our birds, yet little concern is shown when that happens so why just the concern for pet cats and dogs, maybe they will clean up the feral cats and stray dogs that the council charge us rates for. :-/ :-/ :-/

[mick]

so if you know a fair bit  about  birds of prey you would also  know that its illegal  to  release them in to,,the  wild   plus  if you did ,  the birds  probably wouldnt survive  anyway.

[Guest chrisss]

so if you know a fair bit  about  birds of prey you would also  know that its illegal  to  release them in to wild   plus  if you did  the birds  probably wouldnt survive  anyway

 

it would not survive if inprinted on humans ,if you keep contact to a minium[?] you could [maybe] release it, i do know from what i have seen on some sites,the idea of jackets and eagle owls scare the living rspb[cxxx get it!!!!] out of them

[Guest bigda]

so if you know a fair bit  about  birds of prey you would also  know that its illegal  to  release them in to wild   plus  if you did  the birds  probably wouldn't survive  anyway

 

i am sure we the pigeon members can and will pick designated spots to go to and feed the owls with  home bred rabbits  and chicken just as you don't have any quibs about feeding red kites and the likes, after all we will have to charge money if you want to watch, the frenzy we could start of with four hides in cumbria  then Scotland, Wales, and a suppose the citizens in Ireland would love to See these majestic birds as well   :) :D

[jimmy white]

lets not start again i would love to breed and release and nothing could be done about it

 

sorry chrisss, but this is illegal,,, and can result in a large fine,,the eagle owl [  as we have many previous posts on this forum]  eats mainly rabbit, which are plentyfull all year round , they will not tolerate any other bird of prey near their nesting site, and will kill them whilst roosting.

[Guest chrisss]

 

sorry chrisss, but this is illegal,,, and can result in a large fine,,the eagle owl [  as we have many previous posts on this forum]  eats mainly rabbit, which are plentyfull all year round , they will not tolerate any other bird of prey near their nesting site, and will kill them whilst roosting.

 

wrong chrisss jimmy, but i do understand where you are coming from on this, i think its the idea of lack of tolerance to other birds of prey that is grabbing peoples attention, how many "escapes" could you get away with?

[DOVEScot]

so if you know a fair bit  about  birds of prey you would also  know that its illegal  to  release them in to wild   plus  if you did  the birds  probably wouldnt survive  anyway

 

Yes I know it is illegal, that is why we must campaign for a proper release programme throughout the country so they can survive.

Do you think that it is only perigrines, sparrow hawks, sea eagle, redtail kites and goss hawks etc should have proper release programme throughout the country so they can survive and return to sustainable numbers :-/

 

[Guest chrisss]

if it could be proved that they are native to britain, there should not be a problem with a breed and release program after all they do it with all the other breeds of hawks so whats the difference?

[jimmy white]

if it could be proved that they are native to britain, there should not be a problem with a breed and release program after all they do it with all the other breeds of hawks so whats the difference?

 

too many chriss,s ;D ;D ;D, there are differences of opinion from the rspb ,,which say they are not native to britain,???? and the top ornithologists , that say they are native to britain

[jimmy white]

how about approaching local land owners to fly them on there private land, its a shame they don't all come back when called!

 

now that is really a shame?? as they should come back when called    all down to bad training  

[Guest chrisss]

 

too many chriss,s ;D ;D ;D, there are differences of opinion from the rspb ,,which say they are not native to britain,???? and the top ornithologists , that say they are native to britain

 

if i remember right its the rspb who claim its not native [oh i wonder why?]yet the bto say they are , the problem is that the rspb hate the idea of eagle owls flying around because their flying wet dreams [known to us as percy]will not be top of the food chain anymore, if a human kills a hawk it can be done. if a eagle owl killed one,well lets put it like this how many eagle owls are banged up in pentonville,

[jimmy white]

 

if i remember right its the rspb who claim its not native [oh i wonder why?]yet the bto say they are

 

bang on the button chriss   exactly

[jimmy white]

if it could be proved that they are native to britain, there should not be a problem with a breed and release program after all they do it with all the other breeds of hawks so whats the difference?

 

this is very true,, but can the rspb proove they are NOT native to britain,,,,, the answer to this is a simple,,no??

but who wins ,,obviosly the rspb ,,why , because they are mightier :(

[Leroy]

Im sure under a certain act of parliament the government is under a duty to try and re-establish any species that was native to this country but was eradicated due to man, such as wolves, beavers etc, this would mean that if eagle owls WERE native, the government has to determine if it is feasible to reintroduce them. Any ideas???

[kerryharris]

To be frank, the RSPB seem to be a bunch of do gooders with their own agenda, which strays far from protecting all birds. They have authorised the killing of various birds, even when falconers offer to capture and keep the birds.

Sadly, with DNA it should be a simple matter to establish whether an EEo is native to the UK, Europe or bred in captivity. As for taking babies in prams, this is the sort of propaganda that got the EEO extinct from the UK in the first place, the same as taking lambs etc. Crows take lambs eyes, are they persecuted? Nope.

The EEO eats daily, around 10 oz per day, or the same as any bird of prey, as often as hunger strikes and food is available. They hunt mainly at night so will take roosting birds and creatures of the night. These powerful birds of prey have a talon span the size of a grown mans hand, can pierce your skull with talons that have almost a ton of pressure in each but are scared by nature of humans unless imprinted.

It is illegal to use baggies, ( live food ) or to release anything into the wild, without a licence, even a rabbit, sadly, leaving the door open will result in the EEO's being shot, there are many reports of this happening, getting caught releasing them will result in a £2000 ? fine and up to 5 years inside, posting on a public forum your intentions is not perhaps a good idea??

A wild one in Norfolk was seen with two rabbits, one in each talon. That never attacked dogs, humans etc, it did however get involved in a collision with a car, the problem with any owl is they fly at on average 10 ft from the ground.

I too agree that the TV program and its informers should be brought to book regarding the killing of these magnificent owls.

Sadly, these owls are being used as status symbols, as seen here, http://www.norfolkfalconry.co.uk/owlforum/food-for-rehabers--t188.htmloften the reason for lost birds of prey is inexperience though not always.

[ChrisMaidment08]

thats an intresting site

[mick]

theres  a lot    of  very experianced  falconers who loose   birds    so that  statement is  rubbish  

[ChrisMaidment08]

fossiils found prove eagle owl was native to britain so they should be reitroduced in gwent i will let you know if it works

[Guest chrisss]

fossiils found prove eagle owl was native to britain so they should be reitroduced in gwent i will let you know if it works

 

the only fossils i see are the rspb

[Guest mikkey]

look lads it could take years to succesfully breed from a pair of these birds...........so your on a non starter if you ask me................nothing will be done about the bops......and that is a fact :(

[ch pied]

theres  a lot    of  very experianced  falconers who loose   birds    so that  statement is  rubbish  

lost me there  mick , which statment are you referaing to , as many have been posted ,

 

 

[maverick]

look lads it could take years to succesfully breed from a pair of these birds...........so your on a non starter if you ask me................nothing will be done about the bops......and that is a fact :(

 

I do beleive these birds are already breeding in the wilds of britain