PEREGRINE WEB CAM

[grizzle_hen]

Whatever happened to the planned website campaign that was going to happen on here maybe 6 months or so ago??

 

Chris has a good point here.

 

I also think that everyone should take advantage of some hawk men joining the forum, by opening up dialogue with them to see if you can both understand each other and work together maybe.

 

If all you do is keep attacking and threatening each other whether it be on here, another pigeon forum or a hawk forum then your not doing yourself any favours, and in the end giving both sides more ammo against each other and also portraying pigeon fanciers in a bad light.

 

And from what I've read maybe both pigeon fanciers and hawk keepers should be aiming their energy towards the RSPB instead of each other?

[ch pied]

aggreed , the falcon boy's are as miffed at the RSPB as we are

[goshawk]

attacking each other? all i ask was how bad was it really, and i got told to get stuffed and threatened. all because i enjoy another different past time. narrow minded or what. why dont you lot try and get as much photographic evidance of your pigeons being attacked and log them under a thread for use later. make a thread for just pictures and no woffling to be used later.

i cant see how its good for anyone you or the peres if some pigeon lads are going out sorting the birds themself.

[The Navigator]

attacking each other? all i ask was how bad was it really, and i got told to get stuffed and threatened. all because i enjoy another different past time. narrow minded or what. why dont you lot try and get as much photographic evidance of your pigeons being attacked and log them under a thread for use later. make a thread for just pictures and no woffling to be used later.

i cant see how its good for anyone you or the peres if some pigeon lads are going out sorting the birds themself.

 

I agree my friend that talking and no abuse is needed. As about going out and dealing with it yourself, I am afaid there is no choice, because it is out of control and the RSPB are unwilling to do anything about it.

[goshawk]

i agree that its not good that the rspb dont act or speak with you ppl, as it aint good for anywild bop if some members are going out doing there own culling. as its not being organized and dont know how its done so you could be effecting rarer bop like merlins and harriers and my fav goshawks lol. so in my view its not good for you lads, not good for wild bop either.

im not all that bothered as i dont keep pigeons yet and havnt witnessed it.

the thing is if i did keep pigeons and would like to keep rollers i wouldnt be able to protect against wild bop, infact i wouldnt mind them tacking the odd stock from time to time as i would like to witness it.

but what i was trying to find out was could i keep rollers without them being wipped out? an honest asnwer would be nice.

i dont mind a few going missing but would it be worth keeping a small number of say 10? or would they all get wipped out before the next breeding season?

[The Navigator]

i agree that its not good that the rspb dont act or speak with you ppl, as it aint good for anywild bop if some members are going out doing there own culling. as its not being organized and dont know how its done so you could be effecting rarer bop like merlins and harriers and my fav goshawks lol. so in my view its not good for you lads, not good for wild bop either.im not all that bothered as i dont keep pigeons yet and havnt witnessed it.the thing is if i did keep pigeons and would like to keep rollers i wouldnt be able to protect against wild bop, infact i wouldnt mind them tacking the odd stock from time to time as i would like to witness it.but what i was trying to find out was could i keep rollers without them being wipped out? an honest asnwer would be nice.i dont mind a few going missing but would it be worth keeping a small number of say 10? or would they all get wipped out before the next breeding season?

Listen mate. It's easy to identify BOP to carry out what as to be done, unless you are total dimwit. As for having rollers, again if you have a resident pair or a few pairs of PF around you then it will be hard. As for witnessing a strike, trust me it is painful if you own pigeons, but again if you don't it will proberly be exciting. Trouble is there are too many of the poxy things in this country and they need to be dealt with.

[just ask me]

like i said in an earlier post i had 9 taken in two weeks it depends if they target an area u are in trouble

[les]

attacking each other? all i ask was how bad was it really, and i got told to get stuffed and threatened. all because i enjoy another different past time. narrow minded or what. why dont you lot try and get as much photographic evidance of your pigeons being attacked and log them under a thread for use later. make a thread for just pictures and no woffling to be used later.

i cant see how its good for anyone you or the peres if some pigeon lads are going out sorting the birds themself.

no offence ,but that is just the point ,no one [when it comes down to it ] can see what good sorting the hawks out our selves will a achieve  [sIMPLE REALY ]THE ONES WE GET RID OF DONT  BREED OR KILL ANY MORE ,what else can we wish for ,that is the ultamate ACHIEVEMENT .

 

 

[les]

i agree that its not good that the rspb dont act or speak with you ppl, as it aint good for anywild bop if some members are going out doing there own culling. as its not being organized and dont know how its done so you could be effecting rarer bop like merlins and harriers and my fav goshawks lol. so in my view its not good for you lads, not good for wild bop either.

im not all that bothered as i dont keep pigeons yet and havnt witnessed it.

the thing is if i did keep pigeons and would like to keep rollers i wouldnt be able to protect against wild bop, infact i wouldnt mind them tacking the odd stock from time to time as i would like to witness it.

but what i was trying to find out was could i keep rollers without them being wipped out? an honest asnwer would be nice.

i dont mind a few going missing but would it be worth keeping a small number of say 10? or would they all get wipped out before the next breeding season?

ANSWER THIS QUESTION ,if every time you went to fly your BOP ,i was there waiting to shoot it ,would you like it ,and keep on replacing the BOP every time i kill it ,or would you give up and find another hobby ,or do some thing [legal or illegal ]to stop me ,if the law was taking no notice of your complaints .that is what we got to put up with every day.

 

 

[mick]

les you wouldnt get chance  to shoot my bird    plus  killing the  peres   that  are  already there    you think that  gap isnt  going to be filled by another  ?   have  a  think about  it  

[goshawk]

ANSWER THIS QUESTION ,if every time you went to fly your BOP ,i was there waiting to shoot it ,would you like it ,and keep on replacing the BOP every time i kill it ,or would you give up and find another hobby ,or do some thing [legal or illegal ]to stop me ,if the law was taking no notice of your complaints .that is what we got to put up with every day.

 

 

so your saying that a pere comes in everyday and trys to take your birds? wouldnt it have wipped them out within a few months? how many birds have you got?

what if you bred some slow flyers or some rollers maybe to go with the racers? wouldnt they attrack the pere isntead of your best racers?

asking serouse questions here les, and please keep your hair on mate i aint tryin to start anything even though i really dont agree with what your doing.

 

 

[just ask me]

 

so your saying that a pere comes in everyday and trys to take your birds? wouldnt it have wipped them out within a few months? how many birds have you got?

what if you bred some slow flyers or some rollers maybe to go with the racers? wouldnt they attrack the pere isntead of your best racers?

asking serouse questions here les, and please keep your hair on mate i aint tryin to start anything even though i really dont agree with what your doing.

 

 

we are training animals to race why would we want to put slow pigeons or slow breeds in amongst them  as i said in earlier post i lost 9 in two weeks that was hard to take it tore my whole season apart if they lock on to a particular area a fancier can be in some trouble

[goshawk]

 

we are training animals to race why would we want to put slow pigeons or slow breeds in amongst them  as i said in earlier post i lost 9 in two weeks that was hard to take it tore my whole season apart if they lock on to a particular area a fancier can be in some trouble

sorry mate im showing my ignorance here not being a racer, but could they be put in another smaller loft so not aloud to mix or breed with the good birds?

thats what i was trying to asertain, how common was it, because i did ask but only a handfull of ppl actually comented taht they had birds tacken.

i see it if pigeon men are tacking bird out the wild it just seems such a waste for ppl like me who would rather see them be put to a btter us then left dead in areas that have high populations.

 

[just ask me]

sorry mate im showing my ignorance here not being a racer, but could they be put in another smaller loft so not aloud to mix or breed with the good birds?

thats what i was trying to asertain, how common was it, because i did ask but only a handfull of ppl actually comented taht they had birds tacken.

i see it if pigeon men are tacking bird out the wild it just seems such a waste for ppl like me who would rather see them be put to a btter us then left dead in areas that have high populations.

 

if we all had 1 acre of ground there would be no problem also u dont want slow breeds flying with yours it stops them from exerciseing

[goshawk]

oh ok mate fare doo,s. a dilema ill admit.

[just ask me]

oh ok mate fare doo,s. a dilema ill admit.

 

u can say that again also its not the one it kills have seen young birds been hit around my area and been reported more than 100 miles away sometimes a whole team of young ones get such a fright they just fly anywhere that includes trees and even walls   the one it kills is a loss but it the damage it does in there heads that the real damage or getting them back and have to put 10 20 stitches in them at the moment i started off with 24 widowhood cocks lost 2 but have 4 that cant race due to bits of tails missing wings and probally 2 will never race again

[hotrod]

can i just say reading all these post's knowone has mentioned this ,IF A PERCY ATTACKS A TEAM OF RACE BIRDS AND TAKES ONLY ONE ,WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS THAT HAVE HIT LORRIES ON THE MOTORWAY,WIRES ,TREES BUILDINGS YOU NAME IT TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THESE PREDITORS ,SO ITS NOT HOW MANY THESE BOP TAKE ITS THE DAMAGE THEY DO TO THE OTHERS WHO JUST SURVIVE .

[just ask me]

can i just say reading all these post's knowone has mentioned this ,IF A PERCY ATTACKS A TEAM OF RACE BIRDS AND TAKES ONLY ONE ,WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS THAT HAVE HIT LORRIES ON THE MOTORWAY,WIRES ,TREES BUILDINGS YOU NAME IT TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THESE PREDITORS ,SO ITS NOT HOW MANY THESE BOP TAKE ITS THE DAMAGE THEY DO TO THE OTHERS WHO JUST SURVIVE .

 

about 2 posts up mate kinda coverd it

[hotrod]

 

about 2 posts up mate kinda coverd it

YOU MUST HAVE POSTED THAT AS I WAS TYPING LOL

 

 

[just ask me]

YOU MUST HAVE POSTED THAT AS I WAS TYPING LOL

 

 

as once it was said mate as its a important point  

[Guest WINGS 04]

i see the bop is feeding just now

[John k]

So bottom line then what can be done to stop these wild peregrines from attacking race birds?

I'll give u my thoughts for wot they are worth, nothing can be done.

It will always be a on going problem....

 

 

 

Can talk about it for ever and a day from what i read upon the forum its been a ongoing problem for some time but now seems worse than ever, looks as if no one could nip it in the bud in the earlier days so doubt if can stop it now...

 

 

Presume the fancier can only take measures to protect is prized possessions whilst sitting in the garden with them  awaiting a strike, not much anyone can do once birds are airborne or coming back from race......

[Leroy]

finally some sensible talking from both sides!!!  

 

as I see it, and I know I don't yet race, but I have kept free flying pigeons for 15 yrs, there are always going to be some BOP about, and the very nature of pigeon racing means that at some point our pigeons are going to be at risk from attack from BOP, either around the loft or on their way home.

 

From a pigeon fanciers point of view, we want to be able to protect our birds when they are at home, around the loft by whatever means are appropriate. Of course some people will take illegal action, others take legal precautions. Any person should be entitled to protect their own property. BUT we have to accept that by sending our birds hundreds of miles from home, they are likely to be attacked and we SHOULD accept that.

 

If precautions were taken around the loft i.e. fireworks before exercise, BOP strikes should be kept to a minimum.

 

If pigeon fanciers were allowed to take action at their lofts, then we would be less likely to go out looking for nests to destroy and to kill BOP, wouldn't we???

[Leroy]

So bottom line then what can be done to stop these wild peregrines from attacking race birds?

I'll give u my thoughts for wot they are worth, nothing can be done.

It will always be a on going problem....

 

 

 

Can talk about it for ever and a day from what i read upon the forum its been a ongoing problem for some time but now seems worse than ever, looks as if no one could nip it in the bud in the earlier days so doubt if can stop it now...

 

 

Presume the fancier can only take measures to protect is prized possessions whilst sitting in the garden with them  awaiting a strike, not much anyone can do once birds are airborne or coming back from race......

 

we mustve been typing at the same time mate!!!

[John k]

 

we mustve been typing at the same time mate!!!

 

Lol looks that way dude, and looks as if 2 minds think the same