this is no joke

[Guest bigda]

tried to upload some  YouTube  footage not for having it ??) ??) perigrine taking race birds   clean out the sky  

[ALF]

tried to upload some  YouTube  footage not for having it ??) ??) perigrine taking race birds   clean out the sky  

 

put the link up

[Guest Doade]

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sorry the link works but I made  a muck up of it

[Guest bigda]

 

put the link up

 

[Guest bigda]

when you see that we have a big problem they can take birds at will :-/

[ALF]

when you see that we have a big problem they can take birds at will :-/

 

have seen it happen at training never mind on film > > > >

[gangster]

  theres another 1 on there somewere of a pair attackin  race birds..

[Guest numpty01]

and one of hawk with crane ;D ;D ;D ;D but hawk lost more than his leg and wing his life :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

[Guest]

when you see that we have a big problem they can take birds at will :-/

 

Have seen these predators at work here in lanarkshire on a race day.The speed they attack is quite unbelievable you have to see it first hand to appreciate just how much ground they can cover in a matter of seconds.But don't be fooled, the sparrow hawk is just as deadly, its speed may not rival the peregrine but its stealth is just as effective. > > >

[Guest numpty01]

 

Have seen these predators at work here in lanarkshire on a race day.The speed they attack is quite unbelievable you have to see it first hand to appreciate just how much ground they can cover in a matter of seconds.But don't be fooled, the sparrow hawk is just as deadly, its speed may not rival the peregrine but its stealth is just as effective. > > >

tell you one thing about the speed of the dive they stop quick when they meet lead halfway into it their head hits there *expletive removed* thats how fast they stop 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

 

[Guest bigda]

when your birds dont make it home, but you get  one  with the tail or wing damage, then think about this, most fanciers have at least  had  6 birds return home with  damage in the year, so with that said it is now a near certainty, that the bird that dont return are taken alive

by percy, and each  loft has  at least 15 birds missing per year,   that times the amount of  fanciers in the UK

will amount to  60,000 pigeons easy each year,   killed by this *expletive removed*,  and  there is no one

there to help our cause, as the web cam is such a  hit with  Internet  freaks staying up all night to watch the feckers flourish

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

seen that on a pigeon video cant remember what 1 but it's the one with the pigeon fancier from england with the long hair does the press cant mind his name

[ally mac]

had one cirling way above the ybs tonight but it didnt try for any. Hadnt seen it for a month or two. Just hope its not going to start all over again.

[Guest Owen]

In reply to bigda. We have a heck of a lot of peregrines in the valley where I live. And there are Goshawks in the forestry which is all arround us. As if that was'nt bad enough, we have our fair share of sparrowhawks everywhere. The Goshawks are bad. Very bad.

But, they stay in and arround the wooded areas for the moment, and it is only the lofts that are close that get the bulk of attacks. The peregrines are a totally differant matter. They are always there waiting to take their chance. But don't run away with the idea that they can catch at will. They don't. I have seen a lot of hunts, both successful and unsuccessful. And I have seen them miss more often than they catch their prey. Fit widowhood cocks seem to have the best chance of avoiding getting caught while young birds are the most vulnerable. A friend was getting hammered early in the season by a pair of peregrines and in deperation he just opened the loft and gave the birds open hole. He did not loose another bird. While late bred youngsters get the worst of it. They are learning to fly at about the time that the young peregrines are being taught to hunt by the parents. I have seen five peregrines on to one pigeon. The pigeon does not stand a chance at those odds. And the sickening thing is that when they allow one of the young to make the kill, usually after a very long chase, they will play with the body . Sometimes, to make it more gory, the young peregrine will bit the head off the victim and you will see it fall. Other times they will catch and kill the pigeon and after a bit of "pass the parcel" they will just drop it and go on to chase another pigeon.  

[Guest bigda]

In reply to bigda. We have a heck of a lot of peregrines in the valley where I live. And there are Goshawks in the forestry which is all arround us. As if that was'nt bad enough, we have our fair share of sparrowhawks everywhere. The Goshawks are bad. Very bad.

But, they stay in and arround the wooded areas for the moment, and it is only the lofts that are close that get the bulk of attacks. The peregrines are a totally differant matter. They are always there waiting to take their chance. But don't run away with the idea that they can catch at will. They don't. I have seen a lot of hunts, both successful and unsuccessful. And I have seen them miss more often than they catch their prey. Fit widowhood cocks seem to have the best chance of avoiding getting caught while young birds are the most vulnerable. A friend was getting hammered early in the season by a pair of peregrines and in deperation he just opened the loft and gave the birds open hole. He did not loose another bird. While late bred youngsters get the worst of it. They are learning to fly at about the time that the young peregrines are being taught to hunt by the parents. I have seen five peregrines on to one pigeon. The pigeon does not stand a chance at those odds. And the sickening thing is that when they allow one of the young to make the kill, usually after a very long chase, they will play with the body . Sometimes, to make it more gory, the young peregrine will bit the head off the victim and you will see it fall. Other times they will catch and kill the pigeon and after a bit of "pass the parcel" they will just drop it and go on to chase another pigeon.  

 

agree what you are saying birds with no tails and wing damage are from  percy  and gos, but they are the lucky birds  on race day, its not the work of the sparrowhawk, but on reflection of  how Manny  come home tail less or wing damage tell us that there are a lot of kills, and that aint going to go away as all the towns,   and churches in the UK are  nest sites, so count the churches in the UK and tall buildings  multiply that with 4  and that's the amount of peregrines   that are  plaguing the Sky's each year

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

seen that on a pigeon video cant remember what 1 but it's the one with the pigeon fancier from england with the long hair does the press cant mind his name

 

Ronnie Bigwood  8)