RSPB propaganda

[chickadee]

Racing pigeons and birds of prey

Peregrines account for only a small fraction of the racing pigeons released every year

Some pigeon fanciers are concerned that the increase in the numbers of birds of prey, particularly peregrines and sparrowhawks, is posing a significant threat to their hobby. Peregrines and sparrowhawks will kill racing pigeons and can cause injury or disruption to flocks.

 

http://www.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/policy/species/birdsofprey/pigeons.asp

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

it wont be long before theres no small birds then the bops will die out completely then they'll only have the ducks to buy ponds and create wetlands for then i suppose joe public will stop donating because they'll be no wild  birds left , 30 years ago there was an abundance in small song birds many varieties were common place in gardens , the sound of the dawn chorus would wake you up , the gardens are now quite , farmers are loosing there natural defence against slugs and other crop insect pests , then it be back to harsher chemicals , which will further eradicate the small bird population and killing bops either through poisioning or starvation , the R.S.P.B  should be proud and will be named as the greatest cause of the eradication of small birds in the U.K . This organisation has always pointed the blamed at magpies,  crows loss of enviroment and cats but never birds of prey ,  rember one finger pointing another  3 pointing back shame on them .

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

    * straying and exhaustion accounted for 36 per cent of losses

    * collisions with solid objects like buildings and windows – 19 per cent of losses

    * collisions with overhead wires – 15 per cent of losses

    * predation by birds of prey – 14 per cent of losses

 

Quite surprised that they admitted to birds of prey being responsible for 14% of the losses within our sport, now add the percentages of the pigeons having collisions and the straying sometimes caused by the fear that the peregrine causes to the pigeons then the total percentage down to BOP is more likely 35-50%.

    

 

* shooting, entanglement in netting, poisoning and oiling – 8 per cent of losses

    * predation by mammals, including domestic cats – 8 per cent of losses.

[Guest bakes]

had 20 ybs wipped out in space of 3 weeks now tell me pob dont do damage rspb your a joke take your rose tinted glasses off and come back to the real world.

[showman]

I always thought that we the pigeon fraternity, lost a fair bit of ground in our campaign against BOP. We should have paid more attention to the drastic reduction in song / garden birds, a campaign the public would be keener to listen to, and placed our concerns on the back of that. More than one way to skin a cat !! (as the saying goes) OMO

[OLDYELLOW]

    * straying and exhaustion accounted for 36 per cent of losses

    * collisions with solid objects like buildings and windows – 19 per cent of losses

    * collisions with overhead wires – 15 per cent of losses

    * predation by birds of prey – 14 per cent of losses

 

Quite surprised that they admitted to birds of prey being responsible for 14% of the losses within our sport, now add the percentages of the pigeons having collisions and the straying sometimes caused by the fear that the peregrine causes to the pigeons then the total percentage down to BOP is more likely 35-50%.

    

 

* shooting, entanglement in netting, poisoning and oiling – 8 per cent of losses

    * predation by mammals, including domestic cats – 8 per cent of losses.

 

would love to know how many cats fanciers are having problems with probably can count on one finger how many lossed to cats i n last 20 year , birds of prey now have losted loads , birds flying into buildings what aload of tosh  never ever seen a suicidal pigeon fly into a building , wires yes buildings never , yes have seen birds hit windows most get dazed never seen one killed by hitting a window , so can safely add these to the bop percentage of takes which would be more realisticaly be 40% of lost pigeons

[OLDYELLOW]

I always thought that we the pigeon fraternity, lost a fair bit of ground in our campaign against BOP. We should have paid more attention to the drastic reduction in song / garden birds, a campaign the public would be keener to listen to, and placed our concerns on the back of that. More than one way to skin a cat !! (as the saying goes) OMO

 

its been done several times  , never gets the backing from the whole fraternity , if doesnt effect bob he wont sign because 5 friends have problems , thats his advantage aint it sadly people try to change this its like feeding an elephant with a peanut the R.S.P.B are far to well equipted they can get air time in any paper radio and stuff with great ease and use every oppertunity to brain wash the general public into there way of thinking

[chickadee]

 

its been done several times  , never gets the backing from the whole fraternity , if doesnt effect bob he wont sign because 5 friends have problems , thats his advantage aint it sadly people try to change this its like feeding an elephant with a peanut the R.S.P.B are far to well equipted they can get air time in any paper radio and stuff with great ease and use every oppertunity to brain wash the general public into there way of thinking

 

I wonder how much of the £7.5 million they will get out of this  :-/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33857180/ns/us_news-giving/

 

[Guest bakes]

 

would love to know how many cats fanciers are having problems with probably can count on one finger how many lossed to cats i n last 20 year , birds of prey now have losted loads , birds flying into buildings what aload of tosh  never ever seen a suicidal pigeon fly into a building , wires yes buildings never , yes have seen birds hit windows most get dazed never seen one killed by hitting a window , so can safely add these to the bop percentage of takes which would be more realisticaly be 40% of lost pigeons

 

agree mate makes my blood boil there getting away with it everytime and the public are believing them my next door neighbours use to be rspb members when they had a person turn up at the door i was having a brew round there at the time when they said right what you going to do about pob taking high numbers of racing pigeons you no what the women said er er er well we are trying to promote more wild fowl load of crap  what about the small birds tits,robins,finch's ,sparrows, getting taken each year how well its climate change walk on biggest load of rubbish look at it more why have the numbers dropped why are more pigeons getting taken because pob numbers are through the roof thats your answer not climate change

[OLDYELLOW]

 

I wonder how much of the £7.5 million they will get out of this  :-/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33857180/ns/us_news-giving/

 

she must of been quackers  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest lenwadebob]

    * straying and exhaustion accounted for 36 per cent of losses

    * collisions with solid objects like buildings and windows – 19 per cent of losses

    * collisions with overhead wires – 15 per cent of losses

    * predation by birds of prey – 14 per cent of losses

 

Quite surprised that they admitted to birds of prey being responsible for 14% of the losses within our sport, now add the percentages of the pigeons having collisions and the straying sometimes caused by the fear that the peregrine causes to the pigeons then the total percentage down to BOP is more likely 35-50%.

    

 

* shooting, entanglement in netting, poisoning and oiling – 8 per cent of losses

    * predation by mammals, including domestic cats – 8 per cent of losses.

 

Total pigeon fanciers in UK = 33,000 breeding an average of 30+ youngsters per year = 990,000 birds. Falling prey to the POB. 14% of this figure is 138,600, and this is an extremely conservative estimate, bearing in mind the RPRA sell in excess of 1.3 million rings a year So RSPB have a lot to answer for.