rspb at scottish parliament

[frank-123]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8543983.stm

 

glad they can all take time from there jobs to form a mosaic of a peregrine

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

300 poisened and 100 shot.... that dosen't even make a small dent in their population..

 

RSPB are getting worse.. total idiots..!!

[Guest lenwadebob]

More propaganda from idiots that do more harm to the natural balance of the environment than good.

[Guest stb-]

TOSSERS IS THE WORD > >

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Perhaps time for the Pigeon fraternity to make there voices public and protest outside the Scottish parliament when issues such as this are raised by the Mp's and RSPB.

[OLDYELLOW]

86 ,000 members sign there petion 276 signed a pigeon one to change the law , i can go on about the near extinction of the skylark , the cuckcoo , and other birds sucessfully put on the red list by R.S.P.B pollocys and what used to be quite a few common birds such as sparrow and blue tit , they put this down to to everything but bops , that fact is the cuckcoo relies on other species to raise its young and its the decimation of viable nest sites of other species by bops and the cuckcoos this is happening , if they want things to be controlled naturaly then no injured hawk should be be taken care for mended and put back out to kill again as natures about  Survival of the fittest , even during the last cold spell many bops would of perished as it would natural reduce the numbers but no they catch them feed them back up the release again , then theres release programmes the kite is not a natural british bird and has only recently be reintroduced there everywhere now , but try to leave eagle owls out in the wild they claim there not english birds when the fact is they are , but they can legaly remove these why ?????? double standard saying shouldnt medal with nature and they do it day in and day out to make money , lets look at another scheme they wanted set aside for farmers by goverment farmer out at Flamborough were urged to plant crops and leave them for the wild life end result a plague of rats the truth is whenever the R.S.P.B has medaled with nature they've never got it right ever !!!!!!! rant over

[Guest lenwadebob]

86 ,000 members sign there petion 276 signed a pigeon one to change the law , i can go on about the near extinction of the skylark , the cuckcoo , and other birds sucessfully put on the red list by R.S.P.B pollocys and what used to be quite a few common birds such as sparrow and blue tit , they put this down to to everything but bops , that fact is the cuckcoo relies on other species to raise its young and its the decimation of viable nest sites of other species by bops and the cuckcoos this is happening , if they want things to be controlled naturaly then no injured hawk should be be taken care for mended and put back out to kill again as natures about  Survival of the fittest , even during the last cold spell many bops would of perished as it would natural reduce the numbers but no they catch them feed them back up the release again , then theres release programmes the kite is not a natural british bird and has only recently be reintroduced there everywhere now , but try to leave eagle owls out in the wild they claim there not english birds when the fact is they are , but they can legaly remove these why ?????? double standard saying shouldnt medal with nature and they do it day in and day out to make money , lets look at another scheme they wanted set aside for farmers by goverment farmer out at Flamborough were urged to plant crops and leave them for the wild life end result a plague of rats the truth is whenever the R.S.P.B has medaled with nature they've never got it right ever !!!!!!! rant over

 

Well said Mark, exactly what I was trying to say. There isn't ONE project that they have instigated that hasn't had a knock-on, adverse effect on nature. Why, because they are a bunch of "Jobsworths" who have to be seen to be doing something, regardless of the consequences.

 

[north wales novice-]

86 ,000 members sign there petion 276 signed a pigeon one to change the law , i can go on about the near extinction of the skylark , the cuckcoo , and other birds sucessfully put on the red list by R.S.P.B pollocys and what used to be quite a few common birds such as sparrow and blue tit , they put this down to to everything but bops , that fact is the cuckcoo relies on other species to raise its young and its the decimation of viable nest sites of other species by bops and the cuckcoos this is happening , if they want things to be controlled naturaly then no injured hawk should be be taken care for mended and put back out to kill again as natures about  Survival of the fittest , even during the last cold spell many bops would of perished as it would natural reduce the numbers but no they catch them feed them back up the release again , then theres release programmes the kite is not a natural british bird and has only recently be reintroduced there everywhere now , but try to leave eagle owls out in the wild they claim there not english birds when the fact is they are , but they can legaly remove these why ?????? double standard saying shouldnt medal with nature and they do it day in and day out to make money , lets look at another scheme they wanted set aside for farmers by goverment farmer out at Flamborough were urged to plant crops and leave them for the wild life end result a plague of rats the truth is whenever the R.S.P.B has medaled with nature they've never got it right ever !!!!!!! rant over

 

hear , hear , good speach Mark .             andy.

[Guest stb-]

yes mark defo tossers

[Guest bigda]

has anyone on here got any months of the year.

or dates in mind that we can  all agree on,

and once we agree a day and date make it a  national  pigeon day forever   across Europe,

  i think  march would be  a good time but not to sure what date,

  would  be the  best  and have the most  effect,

  with nearly 60,000  members  releasing birds on  that day  at 7.am -9am   to celebrate the day  

[clayton moore]

Another thing that occures to me is the amount of moths the song birds are decimated so the moths flurrish.Just look in your drinkers in the summer.

[OLDYELLOW]

Another thing that occures to me is the amount of moths the song birds are decimated so the moths flurrish.Just look in your drinkers in the summer.

 

Quite right and also were loads of butterflies last year , the less small birds there are the more likely farmer will have no choice but to go back to the old pesticides of old then the bops will have  serious problems from the toxins present

[Guest IB]

Too easy for pigeon people to get themselves used in this piece of propaganda. Just by appearing as a counter-demonstration (remember RSPB is demonstrating against wildlife crime) you are  basically saying that pigeon people are for wildlife crime, and saying it to the Scottish Parliament, public and media. Wrong message, wrong occasion, I think.

[OLDYELLOW]

Too easy for pigeon people to get themselves used in this piece of propaganda. Just by appearing as a counter-demonstration (remember RSPB is demonstrating against wildlife crime) you are  basically saying that pigeon people are for wildlife crime, and saying it to the Scottish Parliament, public and media. Wrong message, wrong occasion, I think.

 

im not for wildlife crimes im asking for the protection to be lifted and them to look at there pollocys re bops

[Guest lenwadebob]

Too easy for pigeon people to get themselves used in this piece of propaganda. Just by appearing as a counter-demonstration (remember RSPB is demonstrating against wildlife crime) you are  basically saying that pigeon people are for wildlife crime, and saying it to the Scottish Parliament, public and media. Wrong message, wrong occasion, I think.

 

Total hypocrisy as it is they who are the biggest perpetrators of crime against wildlife by interfering with nature. The dinosaurs disappeared through natural progression.......... boy am I glad they weren't around in those days or we would be in a right mess.  Our songbirds are disappearing through interference with nature from the RSBP but they are NEVER going to admit their failings.

[THE FIFER]

FIFE police have just employed a policeman to look after birds of pray and protect them , when you get mugged you cant get one yet birds of pray now have their own,

[OLDYELLOW]

FIFE police have just employed a policeman to look after birds of pray and protect them , when you get mugged you cant get one yet birds of pray now have their own,

 

I'd be complaining to council i wouldnt want to be paying for the bops twice , see if you can have a reduction in council tax  

[Guest bigda]

has anyone on here got any months of the year.

or dates in mind that we can  all agree on,

and once we agree a day and date make it a  national  pigeon day forever   across Europe,

  i think  march would be  a good time but not to sure what date,

  would  be the  best  and have the most  effect,

  with nearly 60,000  members  releasing birds on  that day  at 7.am -9am   to celebrate the day  

 

i  have asked for  a  date,  so  if we  cant decide on that   then  there is   no hope

[frank-123]

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/petitions/docs/PE1315.htm

click on link then open up pdf at the top to see some load of crap

 

never mentioned the dying songbirds once

 

maybe we should do the same and highlight our losses and the small bird losses

[willow]

Morning , ok what do you all suggest we do , i have heard bigda mention a pigeon day ,any more suggestions , we should look at them all and do something for all the diff birds and get others also involved not just fanciers , TV , Radio , i know someone in Radio who might help .

[willow]

We can get more than 21.500 signatures ,if we do it properly and get support from friends as well as facniers putting an argument across to cull them as they are killing not only pigeons .People still think of pigeons as flying rats so that is why others wont think anything of it if they are getting killed ,so you have to also tell them what other birds are being killed off as well as pigeons!Name all the birds that are effected and are in decline not just pigeons .so we have to speak up for all the bird not just pigeons or you won't get the supposrt . The rspb only mention bop that is why they get the support they dont say bop are killing your garden birds or they wouldnt get the support they are telling the people only what they want to hear .Positive thinking here is now needed not for us to be negative people's .

[robbiedoo.]

why not get some petition forms at all the big shows and hand them to the some of the stall holders eg petron - louella - when the fanceirs are looking at either their pigeons or products they could sign the petition at the same time as this has a roll on effect on them aswell .JMO

[Merlin]

Why not get someone with know how,to design this protest sheet listing all the endangered species,which in the main is down to overpopulation of Hawks,post it for download,get neigbours,friends,etc to sign,send copies to relevent bodies.

[willow]

A good idea , it is a start .I work full time and don't have so much spare time but i am willing to do what i can ,so put me down on the list for helping with whoever else .Positive thinking now!

[OLDYELLOW]

Morning , ok what do you all suggest we do , i have heard bigda mention a pigeon day ,any more suggestions , we should look at them all and do something for all the diff birds and get others also involved not just fanciers , TV , Radio , i know someone in Radio who might help .

 

well radio would be a good platform to get this problem highlighted you would need to get as many facts from the R.S.P.B  Red list and a panel consisting of local mp and someone from R.S.P.B then your good self or someone who will put there view across without alienating themselfs from looking like they want all bops killed , the bill that was passed in Parliment should be revoked as it was passed to protect these bops from extinction , there are simply not endangered the fact is there thriving in overpopulated numbers , we dont want to see them extinct all we want is where these birds are attacking our lifestock to be able to protect our life stock legaly , then the bops will only be controled where there causing a nuisance and not been pesicuted just because there bop . i wish you well Willow , and im here at your disposal as would many fanciers to try and help you in this fight Regards OLDYELLOW