hawks on the t.v

[Guest bernard_grizzle_smith]

just turned off and it showing a hawk ripping open a pigeon then all its babys and stuff

why would u want to watch this?

it just said 4 the babys to survive the hawk needs to catch 2 pigeons a day!!

[Guest portmuffins]

on bbc one

[Guest bernard_grizzle_smith]

just showed one being taken out in a big kit !

[lawrie]

its nature, thats why its shown. no mention of the fact they eat homing pigeons though!

 

it was interesting how it was filmed i a city when there meant to be in the country side!

[Guest bernard_grizzle_smith]

yep i no!

juts shown pigeon rings on the floor where she attacks the most!!

[Guest karl adams]

I don't need to see these on tv as i see them  in our garden every day

[Tony C]

What annoyed me most was the poetic way they tried to put it over.

[retired]

I only see it without the sound - I was at the bar and my local MP was sat down straight by the TV so maybe worth me badgering him next time i see him   >

[BLACK W F]

I only see it without the sound - I was at the bar and my local MP was sat down straight by the TV so maybe worth me badgering him next time i see him   >

 

was you out on the booze   ;) ;)

[Guest lenwadebob]

I only see it without the sound - I was at the bar and my local MP was sat down straight by the TV so maybe worth me badgering him next time i see him   >

 

Should have badgered him there and then - Strike while the iron was hot

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

YOU SHOULD HAVE BATTERED HIM ,/////

[BLUERON]

had the first roller of the year taken last night by bop. that means lock down for next 6 weeks

[Guest mick bowler]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/species/Peregrine_falcon#p00715kh

[Guest IB]

I thought the way it was put over was very biased. Footage intermingled with 3 other predators, and peregrine's successful strike-rate compared to these was put at 20% of hunts, in the lowest bracket. 3 predators were filmed in their natural habitat, peregrine was filmed over London; Why? 3 predators at risk of extinction because they live in the wild, peregrine future said to be 'bright' because they have moved into 'human' territory. All of that is pure tripe to me, trying to justify peregrine in built-up areas.. what next? great white & crocs in Thames, Cheetah in Hyde Park perhaps?

 

One thing I was glad to see though was the myth that some try to put over on here, that peregrine can outfly a racing pigeon, was exposed as wrong.  

[Guest bakes]

misses seen it and they say there not in citys theres suppose to be all in countrside well if thats right how come ive seen a pair of pergrines a goshawk 3 hen sparrow hawks all this morning flying round and that just around were i am some other areas there up evetyday skys full of pob in decline my ar** there doubled trebled in some areas even my neighbour said to me today i dont no how you put up with it there wasnt hardly any birds of prey around here a few years ago now there everywere you cant let your birds up without them haveing a go and she said i cant even put food out for the garden birds anymore without them coming and takeing them its going to get alot worse but i look at they wont to have a go they got to pay the price an eye for an eye.

[Mealy Cock]

I thought the way it was put over was very biased. Footage intermingled with 3 other predators, and peregrine's successful strike-rate compared to these was put at 20% of hunts, in the lowest bracket. 3 predators were filmed in their natural habitat, peregrine was filmed over London; Why? 3 predators at risk of extinction because they live in the wild, peregrine future said to be 'bright' because they have moved into 'human' territory. All of that is pure tripe to me, trying to justify peregrine in built-up areas.. what next? great white & crocs in Thames, Cheetah in Hyde Park perhaps?

 

One thing I was glad to see though was the myth that some try to put over on here, that peregrine can outfly a racing pigeon, was exposed as wrong.  

 

I did not see the program, however if you feel that the program was biased and misleading you can write to the

British broadcasting authority as a complain, they will investigate it.

 

[Guest Davy Fleming]

BRILLIANT IDEA

[Guest IB]

 

I did not see the program, however if you feel that the program was biased and misleading you can write to the

British broadcasting authority as a complain, they will investigate it.

 

I did that once before with the 'peregrine & white pigeon in a quarry clip' shown on Bill Oddity Goes Wild Show a few years back. BBC make too many programmes with RSPB funding to remain ideologically-independant minded, and all replies to my complaint from their programmes production staff  were pure RSPB-party line. When I told them at the stage 2 appeal that they had displayed bias in not seeking opinion from even one British Homing Union to answer any of my concerns, I was told RSPB (whom they quoted ad nauseum) are well respected bird experts. Went to BBC Board of Governors as stage 3 final appeal, and what came back was much more of the same.

 

No other Organisation that I know of is allowed to hear all stages of a grievance against 'itself' internally, the final stage is usually heard by an Independent Tribunal. Last I heard, Government were abolishing Board of Governors set-up, but I don't know if the appeal process has been changed yet.

 

Since then I have refused to watch their Bill Oddity & friends 'Watch' programmes and any RSPB dumbo out canvassing gets short shrift from me.

[Tumley Lofts Stud]

I caught bits of this program last night. Does anyone know if the RPRA was aware this was going to be broadcast? I guess they didn't! As if they did, why did they not air any concerns about broadcasting domestic pets being ripped apart on national TV! If this was a cat or a dog the hole nation would be up in arms.

[abbeypap]

For anyone who didn't see the programme it is available here on bbc iplayer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rfh1s/Inside_the_Perfect_Predator/

 

Got to say I thought it was a fantastic piece of wildlife filming.  Didn't see any pets being torn to bits, did see cute seals a baby gnu, some kind of gazelle and what may  have been etiher ferral or pet pigeon being caught and eaten.  Fasinating insight to how the makers percieve the bodies of the top predators work while hunting.

 

The bit a the end on the Future showed how the perigrine has adapted to live in towns and city's next to humans and how it is not possbile for the others to do so but have to survive in there ever shrinking worlds.

[Tumley Lofts Stud]

You don't consider your pigeons to be your pets then?!?!

[pigeon55]

you dont see perigrines in the wild with bloody rings on

[Guest lenwadebob]

you dont see perigrines in the wild with bloody rings on

 

Sorry to disagree with you, but you do see wild birds rung. They are caught and rung each year, so the RSPB can monitor their movement.

[abbeypap]

You don't consider your pigeons to be your pets then?!?!

 

Got to admit I have never condsidered the racing pigeons as "pets".  I have had favourites over the years who haven't come home from the racing and the why is anybodys guess.  And we have lost pigeons to the BOP same as every other fancier, doesn't mean I can't appreciate a well made progamme about predators be they land sea or airbourne.  

 

 

[Tumley Lofts Stud]

I didn't say I didn't appreciate the program as I'm always very interested in wild life programs as the more we learn the better for everyone/thing. The point is where is the positive advertising for racing pigeons, as the positive public perception on hawks being increased all the time!