Wing Theories

[T_T]

Any likes/dislikes on wings,short, long, wide or narrow flights or dosn't it really matter.

[Guest ben]

I know i`ll get slagged off for saying this,but narrow,flexable right through the primaries is what you need for easier flying,before they start producing  wider type going through the primary moult,that`s why i `ll get a baby to fly PAU in decent time in it`s year of birth.FOR SURE.

[peterpau]

Years ago I went to visit Mike Young of Timsbury, at the time one of the best in the BICC. He was a real gentleman. He showed me all his birds "Spangles". All I can say is, that visit has stuck in my mind. I went to him knowing exactly what I saw as a good pigeon. After seeing the variety in his stock pen????? One hen he show'd me I'd give my right hand for. The very next bird I wouldn't give the loft space to. These two would have cost me two months salary each. The blood of these birds is still in the pen 10 years later. I know what pleases my eye. No more

[Guest Silverwings]

good subject clive , I think that the wing structures between long distance pigeons and short distance are very diferent ,the consistent longer distance birds are what i call close flighted and with a good step from the secondries (Backwing) up to the primaries with the 8,9, and 10 level when the wing is open the primaries are more flexible and supple and are relevent to the higher respiration rythm of longer distance birds ,  The wings of short distance pigeons have good ventilation from the 6th primary gradualy increasing  to the 10th and the step up not so important these flights narrow towards the end (Finger flighted ) and the quills dead straight and strong i find these type of wings consistent with pigeong with a slower respiration rythm and count down as low as 24 per minute, also the forearm length is slightly shorter giving the bird a pulling action as opposed to the distance birds wing gliding action ,but there are always  exeptions  to the rule and when the wind is up their backside all these qualities are out of the window ....ray

[peterpau]

Tiz about 8 years ago and I don't know that I handled Channel queen, but I did handle Heatwave and Sunrise if you have squills 94 & 95 and look at these two just try and convince me all distance pigeons are of a particular type

[jimmy white]

i think nature decides the wing for the distance, for instance if you look at the birds that barely fly i,e. partridge  ,pheasant, even chickenthey all have very short primaries, then if you look at the swallow, terns etc, long pointed flights, so i think we can use that as a guide   [ problem is, theres allways exeption to the rule with pigeons :)]

[Guest shadow]

the best wing theory is two one on either side of the body winning pigeons come in all shapes and sizes.

[MsPigeon]

with a good step from the secondries (Backwing) up to the primaries

 

I have just this year been reading, listening and learning about wings, the flights and secondaries and the effects on the racing distance etc. But what I have been hearing from more than one fancier is that the secondaries should be long at least half as long as the primaries when the wing is closed, and should go clear up snug to the body and tail when open. Also when this wing is open there is practically no step between the secondaries and primaries.

Ray, from what I understand in the quote above this is oposite to your opinion, is that right? I'm not wanting to argue the point just wondered if I understood your statement right.

Carol

 

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[swilcox]

Last year i recieved a phone call from a very well known and successful long distance fancier, he wanted to buy some of Raymond Molevelds pigeons. I told him that we would be recieving a ship in the next couple of days and that he could come and pick his own as his record on the road was much better than mine. He came and i proceded to pick out maybe 10 pigeons. On each a occasion he opened the wing and muttered perfect, oh yes, thats what im looking for! He put every pigeon in his basket.

 

By mistake i picked up a small janssen hen and handed it too him and within secounds he said this isnt the same. He didnt look at there eye, there *expletive removed* or there pedigree only the wing and went away very happy. I was a little confused!!

 

Stuart

[peterpau]

Don't be confused, we each have our own ideas, and before long the birds at the bottom of your garden, will fit that discription, but thats all.