buying birds

[frank1]

just a couple of questions

1)pathfinder lofts are there birds any good

2)roland jannsens were is the best place to buy prices ect

3)frank sheader soontjens any info onthese prices ect

[chichichi]

1)pathfinder lofts are there birds any good - phone them up and have a chat,, look at their results and how much they charge,, they have a lot of trophies in their adverts,, but ask them when did they win them..

 

2)roland jannsens were is the best place to buy prices ect - masserella have the best no doubt about it,, but they are not cheap.. alex and john mellor have good ones aswell..

 

3)frank sheader soontjens any info onthese prices ect - lots of sootjens about ,, daykin has top ones,, I think fenech has them also,,

 

goodluck in your search.. but always phone the people up and have a chat,, always ask for their best and don't pay more than you can afford,,

 

goodluck

 

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[square_peg]

Even better if you can go and look at what you are getting

 

how many of us buy doos that "look the part" but are rubbish

how many of us buy doos that "look ordinary"but are the goods

 

 

[carlsberg]

i've had birds from pathfinder lofts in the past and their still winning

[just ask me]

when buying birds i have bought them without seeing lots of times the most important thing is the person thrust hard to find but when u do ure onto a winner  

[Merlin]

Just ask Me i am singing off the same song sheet as you this morning, and again agree its the pedigree of the fancier you should be interested in when buying,not the birds.

[joe61]

Ronny De Dobbelaer, Roland Janssen based but these are good birds no doubt, gangster can provide more info on these, he can put you in touch with RDD .

 

 

 

 

 

oh every day a bright one, oh happy days

[bewted]

jakjak on here has some fantastic roland janssen,,,,i have been there and seen these birds with my own eyes,,,,if you want janssens that ooze quality and with the looks too,,,,,i reccomend you see jakjak on this site !!!!!!

[bewted]

and a lot cheaper than louella too for quality !!!

[Roland]

Often smile when the poster says who has great birds etc. For that doesn't mean that they will, or indeed have any for sale.

Merlin / Just ask me 100% right. Must have a repore and mutual respect for the seller.

Unforunately where there is money there is crooks, and Many also feel that as they paid a lot of money, they feel it is quite reasonable to sell of when proven crap.

Yes, they maybe, just maybe a decent throw back amongst them!

[Guest strapper]

best tip for anyone new ..i would say go to someone who is winning well in ur area.

pigeons who are good winners DONT always breed winners!

and losers DONT always breed losers!

louella,s are a good source of r/janseens but remember there were a few guys over here winning with them and breeding them b4 louella,s had them.

trouble is ...there are fanciers who sell roland janseens, but are they really wot ur buying,u pay ur money and u take the chance.

 

 

[Guest chrisss]

best tip for anyone new ..i would say go to someone who is winning well in ur area.

pigeons who are good winners DONT always breed winners!

and losers DONT always breed losers!

louella,s are a good source of r/janseens but remember there were a few guys over here winning with them and breeding them b4 louella,s had them.

trouble is ...there are fanciers who sell roland janseens, but are they really wot ur buying,u pay ur money and u take the chance.

 

 

i hope you are right mate i have just brought one from you ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[not a roland rat/jannsen

[Roland]

Louella must be a paramount choice in as much as you will be getting the 'Blood' off the real champs, and not 'Pillow Twaddle' and at a realistic price too.

[just ask me]

Just ask Me i am singing off the same song sheet as you this morning, and again agree its the pedigree of the fancier you should be interested in when buying,not the birds.

 

makes a nice change

[Guest strapper]

 

i hope you are right mate i have just brought one from you ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[not a roland rat/jannsen

 

nah m8..its straight off the town hall...lol lol lol..i knew wot the parents were.lol

 

its heavy in moult at the moment ,any more info u require chrisss ask any time m8.

 

 

[mark]

Louella must be a paramount choice in as much as you will be getting the 'Blood' off the real champs, and not 'Pillow Twaddle' and at a realistic price too.

 

roland,

           how are are the £99 for 6 ybs from the champions i dread to think.

[Roland]

Probably better that 95% of the 'Fodder' that most buy that clutter up others lofts and Town / Church roofs.

Double Grnd children winning not only 'Nationals' but an international.

Ok  a mite more that £99 nearer £175, which is still less than £30 a bird.

Sure there are a lot that haven't won... but i treal terms I'd wager far better %tage than buying of names and the best flyer in the Fed etc.

[Guest strapper]

Probably better that 95% of the 'Fodder' that most buy that clutter up others lofts and Town / Church roofs.

Double Grnd children winning not only 'Nationals' but an international.

Ok  a mite more that £99 nearer £175, which is still less than £30 a bird.

Sure there are a lot that haven't won... but i treal terms I'd wager far better %tage than buying of names and the best flyer in the Fed etc.[/quot

 

louella buys the best winning birds from the feds/nationals etc doesnt he?...when they come up for sale that is.

but i know of a pair of birds that bred countless winners for owner and different fanciers, and grandchildren are winning out of them that louella doesnt own.

these birds are well known in my area....parents sold at a clearance sale for over £5000

so louella doesnt have all the best birds.just has so many darn good uns lol.

 

[mark]

Probably better that 95% of the 'Fodder' that most buy that clutter up others lofts and Town / Church roofs.

Double Grnd children winning not only 'Nationals' but an international.

Ok  a mite more that £99 nearer £175, which is still less than £30 a bird.

Sure there are a lot that haven't won... but i treal terms I'd wager far better %tage than buying of names and the best flyer in the Fed etc.

 

jesus, they should have some winners they breed more birds than any other stud.

[Roland]

No! very smaller percentage of y/b's have anything to do with Louella. Have to breed a few hundred thousand for that I guess.

[jimmy white]

and not one person mentions management :),,,,,,,,,,,,just breeds,,,,,,what is the pigeon game comming too, roland jansens, ,,,roland buttas ;D ;D this that and the next thing,,,,,,,,,twaddle,,[sales guff ;D ;D main thing is [in my opinion] get your pigeons from someone who had kept won and raced pigeons for many years,,[irrespective of so called breed ],,,,,,,,and still wins  ,,,,,and find out his method

 

p.s a question i put to a really top flier,winning regular , do you find the pure  ,,,,,,,,,,s, best ,,,,,,his answer" do you mean for selling or racing,",, i said" racing",, his answer was , "pure??? for selling ", "crossed for racing" [hybrid vigour]

[mark]

No! very smaller percentage of y/b's have anything to do with Louella. Have to breed a few hundred thousand for that I guess.

 

i will let you have he last word on this roland as you seem to have the last word on most posts.

[frank1]

were is the best place you have bought birds any strain

[DOVEScot]

its the pedigree of the fancier you should be interested in when buying,not the birds.

 

Best way I have heard it put across, it is the pedigree of the fancier you should trust first and foremost  :-/

[Guest chrisss]

were is the best place you have bought birds any strain

 

this site, trust is everything, if you have guys you can trust bingo job done