Tossing of Young birds

[Skull Lofts]

Hi all

 

Has anyone got experience with tossing young birds SINGLE UP as theire 1st toss?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Skull

[Guest]

Hi all

 

Has anyone got experience with tossing young birds SINGLE UP as theire 1st toss?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Skull

i posted a couple of days back "latebreds" under racing pigeons section . 5 young cocks had first toss ,let go singley . came home ok ,might be jumping the gun ,but if it works all will be well.          andy.

 

[fred smyth]

how far did you take them

[pigeonpete]

Hope this helps :-)

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1255446246/

[Shortcut Lofts]

Never singled them up until they were experienced. Once i got them to 25 miles the get broken up 5s 4s 3s eventually ending up in ones.

[Skull Lofts]

i posted a couple of days back "latebreds" under racing pigeons section . 5 young cocks had first toss ,let go singley . came home ok ,might be jumping the gun ,but if it works all will be well.          andy.

 

Thanks

[Skull Lofts]

Hope this helps :-)

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1255446246/

 

Thanks it did.

[Skull Lofts]

What would the pros and cons be of road training a young bird singled up the 1st time you take them on the road?

 

Skull

[billt]

What would the pros and cons be of road training a young bird singled up the 1st time you take them on the road?

 

Skull

 

Can't see any gain in single tossing first timers, wouldn't take young birds on first toss without a few old birds anyway

[Skull Lofts]

 

Can't see any gain in single tossing first timers, wouldn't take young birds on first toss without a few old birds anyway

 

Why dont you take them on theire own?

[fred smyth]

 

Why dont you take them on theire own?

 

what if you dont have any old birds flying out,

[billt]

 

Why dont you take them on theire own?

 

They are only babies that you are teaching, as that great facier Jim Biss once said, would you expect your kids to come home from school on their own when first starting  :-/

[billt]

 

what if you dont have any old birds flying out,

 

If you don't have old birds toss them together, I'f you single they don't clear 'till there are a few up anyway

[Guest IB]

I think its all down to learning in logical stages. If you go 'straight' to single-up on 1st toss, your lifting the bird out of the basket and launching it into the sky: doing that you've missed the first important stage of getting the birds used to leaving the basket quickly & safely as soon as the flap drops, getting high into the sky asap, getting formed up into a batch, and breaking quickly in the right direction for home.

[vanreets]

 

Can't see any gain in single tossing first timers, wouldn't take young birds on first toss without a few old birds anyway

 

[jimmy white]

i have to be awkward as usual ;D but i believe in singling  yb,s ,s up as much as poss,in all   directions, i find their harder to loose from this experience,,,  but would prefer giving them a little experience first in their batch  [i think it might be worth mentioning that  skull is in s , africa]

[billt]

i have to be awkward as usual ;D but i believe in singling  yb,s ,s up as much as poss,in all   directions, i find their harder to loose from this experience,,,  but would prefer giving them a little experience first in their batch  [i think it might be worth mentioning that  skull is in s , africa]

 

Agree with that , it was first and early tosses that I think they should be given every help

[vanlink]

In 07 i singled about 20 ybs from where i was working for thier very 1st toss during the day so there was not really much chance in them waiting for each other. I think i may have had only about two or three back. Learned a lesson that day. It may work for you of course but for me no chance. I now let them go in groups of 6-8 and this seems to work well to start with then i gradually cut down the numbers to 2 ups and lose hardly any.

 

I think that most would agree that training should not really start until the ybs are ranging fairly well.

[Skull Lofts]

I think its all down to learning in logical stages. If you go 'straight' to single-up on 1st toss, your lifting the bird out of the basket and launching it into the sky: doing that you've missed the first important stage of getting the birds used to leaving the basket quickly & safely as soon as the flap drops, getting high into the sky asap, getting formed up into a batch, and breaking quickly in the right direction for home.

 

I always put my young birds in the baskets when first starting to loftfly them and liberate them in the front yard, so they already learn to leave the baskets before they are evn close to being road trained.

[Skull Lofts]

My reason for wanting to go this way is:

 

The past season my young birds all came back from the opposite

direction of race-point in 90% of the races we flew!

I clocked with the other guys in the club, same time, but then i stil

had to give overflight wich made me loose valuable positions and

points.

They even came from the wrong side, EAST, on the tosses where they

should have come from the SOUTH/WEST, race point.

 

 

Now, as we as fanciers always want to try and improve, i thought this

would maybe help.

 

 

[Guest IB]

 

I always put my young birds in the baskets when first starting to loftfly them and liberate them in the front yard, so they already learn to leave the baskets before they are evn close to being road trained.

 

Not quite what I was meaning. I do the very same for a week training the birds to go in through my door, before they are allowed outside on their own. They're hardly airborne, or high in the sky in the back yard. As I said in my post - logical 'stages' - to build the birds confidence & experience.