Guest puresoontjen Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 plain and simple as black and white then this rpra one loft race is not a one loft is it so the money can be refunded to the peaple that think they are flying in one cant it 1 management 1 flyer 1 loft is it not
hepste Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 [/color] if thay whant to come in to our club we all agree to let them in, our club isn't frightened of any compitition this 1 loft y/g bird race is comeing up soon you must be so scared of them being in the clubs and nfc ect if you got the so called goods there would be none of this would there. You're getting personal again!
Guest numpty01 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 who payed the fed transporter fee who paid the entry fees who payed the fed fee.s mr bills nope we did as the money for entry to yearling race would not cover the cost of sending them plus keep plus training plus other costs so i think its forgone concluseion we lose out somewere as we pay everything if we join anything
Guest puresoontjen Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 You're getting personal again! fact
Guest numpty01 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 look im bored now so will enlighten myself by ringing rpra and ask mr bills if im paying his costs to race his birds and will he be flying his birds as younsters in a club for fed honers and positions and point out the worchester club is happy to take all 1000youngsters as flyers
vanlink Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Posted June 17, 2009 dogeon, puresoontjen. Why do you think that I have some kind of personal vendetta or hidden agenda? I have said I do not agree with the concept of a I loft race taking part in a multi loft race. Nothing hidden about what I am saying. I am totally open. Naturally I am more vocal and more aware because it’s happened in my section. You too have experienced it in a slightly different way and you are happy with the arrangement. To different opinions trying to engage support. The following is the post that I made yesterday praising your club. So I really am not out on some personal crusade, but as I have already said to someone on the QT. This subject would have probably died a death but all the shouting and personal insults just create more interest and keep it in the spot light. I admire your club for taking the challenge on. Your club members must be commended for their embrace of the One Loft Race Birds into the club. I am sure that there are many clubs and flyers who despite possibly saying they would welcome the challenge would probably not allow it if it presented its self. So as a club you should be proud that you embrace the best competition.
pigeonpete Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 Lets not get personal please, Perfectly reasonable topic to debate, But if 1 or 2 are going to go off topic it will be locked. Thanks. :-)
Guest puresoontjen Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 who payed the fed transporter fee who paid the entry fees who payed the fed fee.s mr bills nope we did as the money for entry to yearling race would not cover the cost of sending them plus keep plus training plus other costs so i think its forgone concluseion we lose out somewere as we pay everything if we join anything your wrong thay pay there way as well as training then
thunderboult Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 got ya going but were not frightened of any compitition ;D ;D and they still have'nt got it.
Guest puresoontjen Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 look im bored now so will enlighten myself by ringing rpra and ask mr bills if im paying his costs to race his birds and will he be flying his birds as younsters in a club for fed honers and positions and point out the worchester club is happy to take all 1000youngsters as flyers yes you do that and don't for get the cost of that phone call ;D ;D
Guest numpty01 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 no im not rpra im me i dont claim for everything ;D ;D ;D
Guest numpty01 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 right vanlink i think you have the answer from us best put it in book then get the peaple who think its one loft race to add there view ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest puresoontjen Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 soontjen, you must be loving this. no not really i lik the truth
Guest puresoontjen Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 no im not rpra im me i dont claim for everything ;D ;D ;D you should do i have a good go at it any way £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££3
Guest dogeon Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 and they still have'nt got it. ;D ;D they havent got it as there too busy with grilling others
PIGEON_MAN Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 umm who pays for the transfers and his membership as he has never had birds in his life now thats a more intresting point to debate as its our money getting spent Come on Chris I,m sure it,s not that difficult to work out even for you LOL people pay to enter the 1 loft race and the entry fees are used to pay these things.
Guest numpty01 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 Come on Chris I,m sure it,s not that difficult to work out even for you LOL people pay to enter the 1 loft race and the entry fees are used to pay these things. i know that but when you take into account all the loss of money thro lost birds repartiation food wages training prize money then break down entry fees transport to club fee.s and everything else who pays loss whats the prize for winners
Guest puresoontjen Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 i know that but when you take into account all the loss of money thro lost birds repartiation food wages training prize money then break down entry fees transport to club fee.s and everything else who pays loss whats the prize for winners noing your birds have won ;D ;D
Guest dogeon Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 dogeon, puresoontjen. Why do you think that I have some kind of personal vendetta or hidden agenda? I have said I do not agree with the concept of a I loft race taking part in a multi loft race. Nothing hidden about what I am saying. I am totally open. Naturally I am more vocal and more aware because it’s happened in my section. You too have experienced it in a slightly different way and you are happy with the arrangement. To different opinions trying to engage support. The following is the post that I made yesterday praising your club. So I really am not out on some personal crusade, but as I have already said to someone on the QT. This subject would have probably died a death but all the shouting and personal insults just create more interest and keep it in the spot light. in answer to your question there has been more than 2 who disagree with you, no where in my post did i get personal towards you i voice my opinion on this matter not you and yet you got personal by posting my name so who is being personal? it sems to me as if you now have a vendetta against people who agree to the one lofts entering
PIGEON_MAN Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 how maney in youer club voted to accept mr bills as member to fly his birds Chris,I am secretary of the club and we all voted for MR.D.BILLS to be a member of our club, likewise MR.P.BRYANT before him I personally cannot see any problem with that,if members of other organisations have a problem then they should put in a proposition at the AGM to prevent 1Lofts from joining the club.
Guest numpty01 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 Chris,I am secretary of the club and we all voted for MR.D.BILLS to be a member of our club, likewise MR.P.BRYANT before him I personally cannot see any problem with that,if members of other organisations have a problem then they should put in a proposition at the AGM to prevent 1Lofts from joining the club. yep i know youer sec you told me befor :P but i still fail to see how rpra yealing one loft race is competeing in fed or anyother race for that matter and if i was to lose a bird then find out i was in fact competing against birds spread out around country instead of to one race to one point against others who have paid same money as me i wont be pleased but thats me
Guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 a one loft race team is like putting a premiership football club into a lower league ...so does that seem fair competition? im not a member of the rpra so some will say whats it got to do with me...im just voicing an opinion. Where do you get that one from Paul? One lofts are nothing more than what they say they are, one destination with lots of different fanciers birds nothing more, they are trained pretty much the same way as any other loft, fed the same way, and raced from point A to point B, (the same way), how can you say they would be any better than say any good bird in your loft? Next thing you'll be saying is that the birds will from the one lofts will be using blocking tactics so one of their birds will win? ??) The only concern I'd see is who wouldget the prize money the one loft race owner or would it be divied up?
Jeremy Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 Chris aka Numpty Mr Link. The Yearling Race has been running with the Fed for the last 2 years we have never had any complaints from the Federation or Club they welcome the challange everyone voted for david bills to join more birds more prize money and if your good enough they can be beat. I cud send 500 myself to the club but that does not mean i am going to win. Fact last year me sending 30 birds per week against the one loft i beat those birds by minutes each week 4 from 5 races. This year they have beaten mine 5 from 6 races as my are not in form this year as last. Anyway the ENTRANTS PAY to enter and any cost that are along the way sending to the club etc come out from these fees.Dont worry Chris nothing from your pocket. If you read the Yearling race rules and race programme the Entrants are not in the Dark on that they are going to race against the Fed and BBC. Happy Days..
Jeremy Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 Ps Chris you told me you had 7 ip adresses???? So how can you hold a poll under faulse names with different ip's ? I can go on 10 different ip's today i change the vote So i think we should have a poll with full names to get a true account.. What do you think Mr Link ?
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