Racing latebreds.

[North road racer]

Hi, what does everybody think to Racing latebreds?

 

I lost alot of old the season before this one and have very few widowhood cocks now. I had hoped tro get a good team of yearlings togtether this year from my young birds but have nearly 60% hens. Hopefully some of the young cocks will race well and be here next year, but ive decidedto take some latbreds (about 5) and train them up ready for next year oldbirds racing to help keep the numbers of my widowhood cocks up. Has anybody had any decent latebreds or have any advice on how to train them and when. Thanks.

[edwards]

nightmare city 1 out of a 100 will do well but if you work them hard you never know they might give you a buzz.

[pigeonpete]

They need to be trained well in there year of birth. so go for it. just dont go easy on them if you can get them trained upto 100miles they will be fine, if you dont train them this year. then waist of time, most gone by first couple of races. But you just might get a gem off them :-)

[Guest]

i would give your y/bs 2 or 3 races then stop the cocks you need for next year

settle them into your widowhood section

jmo

[Craig05]

Yes. definatly get them trained as far as you can this year and then treat them like young birds next year only sending them to  the first few old bird races possibly as far as 250 - 300 miles.  then i would stop them and keep them for the following year to race all the inland races.  

well this is what i am trying anyway  

[Guest shadow]

personally never had much success with latebreds for racing

[edwards]

i would give your y/bs 2 or 3 races then stop the cocks you need for next year

settle them into your widowhood section

jmo

best advice to give alright mate will be doing it me self couple of races and stop me widowhood team for next season and let whats left earn there perch.

 

[Guest Owen]

You can race latebreds but they need to be trained well in the year of their birth. Even then I have not found many to be any good. There is nothing better than the basket and experience to develop a young cock.

On the other hand, it is no bad thing to reduce the numbers you keep. I have 16 nest boxes which are not all filled. You only need about 12 really good cocks to do the job for you. And I have found that my best young cocks on the road become my best yearlings. My best yearlings are my best 2 year olds and after that they are just as well in the bucket. Birds that don't produce before the end of their second season are no use to me.

[Guest bigjohnwadd]

Nothing wrong with Latebreds  mate,only problem`s the fanciers themselves who expect to put latebreds to work early in the following year with cold east winds that even old veteran birds struggle with,if you have the time and space to play about with these latebred s,better wait till late may in warmer weather,then put them to work in a few short comeback races,as 2year olds,fully moulted out,if any good ,will work well.

[peterpau]

Nothing wrong with Latebreds  mate,only problem`s the fanciers themselves who expect to put latebreds to work early in the following year with cold east winds that even old veteran birds struggle with,if you have the time and space to play about with these latebred s,better wait till late may in warmer weather,then put them to work in a few short comeback races,as 2year olds,fully moulted out,if any good ,will work well.

 

Now you are talking my kind of language.

My 07 late breds and 08 young uns saw the basket for the first time in may raced for the first time in June. I now have 10 ready for BBC Bordeaux on 1st august 515 mile for me.

I've won from Thurso with a late bred and 2nd sec 20th MNFC again with a late bred. No they aint never seen a basket as a young un. Be realistic you breed 50 young uns and 5 late breds. You aint got much chance with late breds but then, count the four year olds in your pen.  

[carlsberg]

i have 10 early bred yb's and have now got 21 late breds that i hope will have a comeback race this season but will be trained up to 100mls this season and i will race them every race next season

[Guest strapper]

education is everything!

train! train! train!,,....and i dont mean inter city!

 

[Guest mick bowler]

Just been speaking to a very good fancier. he told me about some latebreds he had from Ireland year before last so never raced just trained them. One of them on its second race ever as a yearling, won the NFC!!

 

So there you go if they are good enough they are good enough.

[graham matthews]

i raced latebreds in 07 they scored in every race, 4x1st 5x 2nd e.t.c. they were only trained to 30 miles. it's qaulity of pigeon and what you teach them.

[Guest]

i raced latebreds in 07 they scored in every race, 4x1st 5x 2nd e.t.c. they were only trained to 30 miles. it's qaulity of pigeon and what you teach them.

you must have some very good birds,what area are you from graham

 

 

[jimmy white]

Nothing wrong with Latebreds  mate,only problem`s the fanciers themselves who expect to put latebreds to work early in the following year with cold east winds that even old veteran birds struggle with,if you have the time and space to play about with these latebred s,better wait till late may in warmer weather,then put them to work in a few short comeback races,as 2year olds,fully moulted out,if any good ,will work well.

 

my own thoughts exactly ,, with a little work/patience at 2 yo they are  fresh birds then the  skies the limit  [ive proved this for myself]

[Guest strapper]

Just been speaking to a very good fancier. he told me about some latebreds he had from Ireland year before last so never raced just trained them. One of them on its second race ever as a yearling, won the NFC!!

 

So there you go if they are good enough they are good enough.

 

mick m8, dont matter how good the parents are ,if the youngsters dont know wot to do they will be just as dull as streeters....they have to be trained at least.

 

[john cumming]

i raced latebreeds this year and did well, trained all through the winter up to 40 miles, & they all did 300+ miles this year, ive just won the old bird averages in the club, started with 16 got 11 left

[will]

what would you class as a late bred? which month would you say is the latest that you could hatch to race the following year?

[Guest]

i raced latebreeds this year and did well, trained all through the winter up to 40 miles, & they all did 300+ miles this year, ive just won the old bird averages in the club, started with 16 got 11 left

very well done, thats an excellent performance .                       andy.

 

 

[Guest]

what would you class as a late bred? which month would you say is the latest that you could hatch to race the following year?

i would say august at the very latest , there are always exceptions to any rule. would also say a 101 questions to be asked/learnt about latebreds ,before considering the above.                andy.