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Hi

 

does anyone still race the old lines of louella ie,stamvater,sheer elegance ,de rode zot ,arjan lines and still win top races with them,these lines i had years ago and were just fantastic birds.

 

Les

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no but rember the arjan pigeons were mint

 

 

i had 2 g,children off the arjan,i called one "wattles" he bred loads of federation winners for mr & mrs pat smith & dtr,plus had a son of "stamvater" he bred 21x1st prize winners plug g,sire to a mealy cock who topped the fed in 2001.plus several g,children of "eddy merckx" a friend has my last g,son of eddy merckx and sheer elegance,even though he dusnt know how its bred he wouldnt let me borrow it.

 

Les

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Fantastic pigeons Les, i don't think Louella have pigeons now as good as what they were when these were about! I used to read about these all of the time, Arjan, Irma, Eddy Merckx, Astrid, Jonge Witoger, Stamvater, Sheer Elegance, Skyleader, Jonge Witoger, Golden Ball, Le Bon Reproductuer, Kimberley, Valentin, Aachen, etc..........

Truly great pigeons! Some of my best birds and fondest memories in the game are with these lines! I currently have a loan of an old cock bird through Arjan now, a real ace producer. Hope he fills!  :)

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yes bud,these lines were the real mc,coy i had all of these lines way back in 1986-1993,bredloads of good pigeons,pity i didnt realise how good they really were back then,i definatly would have maintained a family of them,things you dont realise and before you know it there gone.

 

Les

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Stamvater was my favourite pigeon of all time. - still is - Never was able to afford any though lol.

Red Dragon lofts had / have Stamvater's line, tried several times to buy some off them ... they never ever answered the blumming phone, so missed out there again ... ah well.

Guest chrisss
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i am sure honeysuckle lofts used to "do" the old lines i have no idea if they still do

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yes bud,these lines were the real mc,coy i had all of these lines way back in 1986-1993,bredloads of good pigeons,pity i didnt realise how good they really were back then,i definatly would have maintained a family of them,things you dont realise and before you know it there gone.

 

Les

 

Aye Les, exactly my sentiments, i wish i had them now! They were the business. I had a g/son of the Stamvater, bred and raced by Valentin Muller, had 21 prizes for him, he was something special!

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When i was in oz a few years ago i visited Nick Brent at St Clair stud he had some lovely sheer elegance & Stamvater have a look at his website sorry dont know how to do link but its www.pigeonstud.com

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