janssen's Vs busschaert's

[aldo1]

which is the best

[blackjack]

Forget fancy names breeds are for chickhen Rhode island reds etc .Thier are good poor and average pigeons forget pure this and that.

[jimmy white]

which is the best

 

the one that wins regularly

[homebird]

Havnt had pigeons that long but Ive got a number of straines ,all stock birds from different people so there could be a number of reasons for the different traites that I have observed in them.So a conclusion may not be formed on my findings but I am sure the more experiened members on Basics will have a more informed idea as to an answer to you question.But for what its worth ill give you my findings on the stock birds sofar.The Busschearts seem to be the first to settle when put together and look to be good feeders also the cross pairs Janssens x Busschearts all have one well.The Janssens have been steady,but the Vanreets and the Gabbys have taken longer to settle and seem to be more flighty ,thier pedigrees are a lot closer together (inbred).So from a breeding point of view the Busscheart seems to be the one that is working well for me even the 07 ones  and the Janssens are a close second.As for racing ill find out this summer.Wish you luck with this question but I think the answer will be they work well for one flyer and not for another.  

[Guest casbri]

the best birds are them what win

[GROVEHOMER]

I'd say the Janssen strains are faster over the shorter distances some are super fast, I've never doubted their sprint potential.

Busschearts are fast too but they seem to excel at about 200-300mls and they have a bit of distance about them (Chris Gordons' "Snydale" champions have Pearson & Dransfield Busschaerts in them...700ml winners) which make them better in my mind because they have the potential to win nearly every race in the programme.

[aldo1]

GROVEHOMER  do u own any of the strain's

[Guest chrisss]

I'd say the Janssen strains are faster over the shorter distances some are super fast, I've never doubted their sprint potential.

Busschearts are fast too but they seem to excel at about 200-300mls and they have a bit of distance about them (Chris Gordons' "Snydale" champions have Pearson & Dransfield Busschaerts in them...700ml winners) which make them better in my mind because they have the potential to win nearly every race in the programme.

 

having a social life of a testi fly all i do is read about pigeons ,and i am sure that the janssens can do the distance [at least in holland]

[GROVEHOMER]

Yes, not many, I'm more interested in distance.

[GROVEHOMER]

Yes, not many, I'm more interested in distance.

[Guest chrisss]

Yes, not many, I'm more interested in distance.

 

fair comment, what makes a distance strain is it feeding or training or strain [what is a strain anyway but a collection of birds with some ones name strapped on to sell]

[GROVEHOMER]

What, 700mls? All I can do is speak as I find, and that is Busschaerts seem to do better at the distance than Janssens, certainly where I live... mind you, Holland, Devon ain't. ;D

[GROVEHOMER]

 

fair comment, what makes a distance strain is it feeding or training or strain [what is a strain anyway but a collection of birds with some ones name strapped on to sell]

 

Yes I agree, no such thing as "pure this" or "pure that",  just familes of birds bred to do well at approx 100mls or 400mls.

[Guest chrisss]

What, 700mls? All I can do is speak as I find, and that is Busschaerts seem to do better at the distance than Janssens, certainly where I live... mind you, Holland, Devon ain't. ;D

 

as a guy whos flys the distance i will bow to your better judgment on this[the only way my birds would fly 700 miles is on a plane, then heathrow airport would only lose them ,and i seem to be able to do that far cheaper than "ba" ;D ;D ;D ;D

[aldo1]

Yes, not many, I'm more interested in distance.

 

so what strains you got for the distance

 

[GROVEHOMER]

 

fair comment, what makes a distance strain is it feeding or training or strain [what is a strain anyway but a collection of birds with some ones name strapped on to sell]

 

Yes I agree, no such thing as "pure this" or "pure that",  just familes of birds bred to do well at approx 100mls or 400mls.

[GROVEHOMER]

 

so what strains you got for the distance

 

The Aarden based strains, to be honest I have a mish mash, although Van Der Wegen and Van Wanroy seems to crop up quite often in pedigrees.

[Roland]

Bussearts... the working man at last competed, AND against and beating the 'Jansens'.

[Guest Paulo]

I personally love busschaerts but at the end of the day there are two types of pigeons:-

 

1.Good

 

2.Bad

 

I'd have a van der knockermeister if it was winning

[Guest Paulo]

the whole point with busschaerts is they aren't really a strain anyway, people go on about inbred pigeons and I've no doubt some people have success but George Busschaert showed aggressive crossing of winning genes was the way forward.

 

Janssens are more an inbred familly yet seem to bred great pigeons when crossed

[Roland]

Paulo like most it was Jasenns crosses that did the damage. Blood pool for 'Blood' x's for races.

Dare say that they was nigh as many crosses with Jansens as Buesearts, but ALL bussearts were sold... With great sucess might I add, where as Jansens was particular who had what and what from.

[Merlin]

Based on what I can only be described as an educated guess,up to-day the Jansenn lines are responsibile for more (Families) of pigeons than Bussacherrts are.this is in no small part due to selective breeding and structure,and retention of gene pool as practiced by Jansenn Bros initially,whereas Bussacherrts were based on performances only,and consequently havent stood the test of time like Jansenn blood.