Guest Hjaltland Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 You know that cheq hen which you only keep because she’s an absolutre stonewaller handling bird? She’s always late back from races, sometimes never on the same day. You keep her because she was off ‘the old so and so’ and she could well take a ticket in the local show or your were short of hens and she made up a pair. As a youngster she was always ‘way behind the rest, coming back knackered hours late… you always asked yourself ‘why the heck do I keep her?’ Three or four years go by and she struggles home for a few races spending nights out and eventually she is entered in the last race of the season… a 600 miler. You know in your heart of hearts that you really shouldn’t put her in the basket, but she has flown the programme so is entitled to try. Well it’s a real smash of a race with many birds missing and she comes home first to take the cup and all the pool money in a gruelling race. Makes you think, many would have given her the chop as a YB never mind three or four year old. What do you think, how many champions been bucketed in their early years because of their early performances? Or are you the patient sort who really know their birds ? The basis of this is true because this happened to me. She’s now in the stock loft these last three years and ….wait for it…... has bred nothing of note!!...............yet !
just ask me Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 yeah mate a smash race and your ull allways see unfaiced birds coming up in the results
pjc Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 how many can afford to keep birds waiting for a win in an unlucky race? Are you breeding in preperation for another smash in 3/4 yrs? Phil
Lennut Tar Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 You know that cheq hen which you only keep because she’s an absolutre stonewaller handling bird? She’s always late back from races, sometimes never on the same day. You keep her because she was off ‘the old so and so’ and she could well take a ticket in the local show or your were short of hens and she made up a pair. As a youngster she was always ‘way behind the rest, coming back knackered hours late… you always asked yourself ‘why the heck do I keep her?’ Three or four years go by and she struggles home for a few races spending nights out and eventually she is entered in the last race of the season… a 600 miler. You know in your heart of hearts that you really shouldn’t put her in the basket, but she has flown the programme so is entitled to try. Well it’s a real smash of a race with many birds missing and she comes home first to take the cup and all the pool money in a gruelling race. Makes you think, many would have given her the chop as a YB never mind three or four year old. What do you think, how many champions been bucketed in their early years because of their early performances? Or are you the patient sort who really know their birds ? The basis of this is true because this happened to me. She’s now in the stock loft these last three years and ….wait for it…... has bred nothing of note!!...............yet ! All I can say is ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :) :) :P :P Your a very patient man :'( :'( :'(. Enjoy.
Guest Hjaltland Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 how many can afford to keep birds waiting for a win in an unlucky race? Are you breeding in preperation for another smash in 3/4 yrs? Phil Exactly! In our neck of the woods we usually have a smash race once a year phil!
jimmy white Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 You know that cheq hen which you only keep because she’s an absolutre stonewaller handling bird? She’s always late back from races, sometimes never on the same day. You keep her because she was off ‘the old so and so’ and she could well take a ticket in the local show or your were short of hens and she made up a pair. As a youngster she was always ‘way behind the rest, coming back knackered hours late… you always asked yourself ‘why the heck do I keep her?’ Three or four years go by and she struggles home for a few races spending nights out and eventually she is entered in the last race of the season… a 600 miler. You know in your heart of hearts that you really shouldn’t put her in the basket, but she has flown the programme so is entitled to try. Well it’s a real smash of a race with many birds missing and she comes home first to take the cup and all the pool money in a gruelling race. Makes you think, many would have given her the chop as a YB never mind three or four year old. What do you think, how many champions been bucketed in their early years because of their early performances? Or are you the patient sort who really know their birds ? The basis of this is true because this happened to me. She’s now in the stock loft these last three years and ….wait for it…... has bred nothing of note!!...............yet ! it proves the fact that for the distance, patience is a must,, i had something similar a few years ago, a cheq cock , well behind in any short races , just out of national results by a whisper, still had faith in the bird ,,,,,15th open blue riband national rennes ,,,,at 6 years old ;D ;D ;D winning the hundred pound pool £i,800 ;D ;D ;D [first time scoring] ;D
Guest Hjaltland Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 it proves the fact that for the distance, patience is a must,, i had something similar a few years ago, a cheq cock , well behind in any short races , just out of national results by a whisper, still had faith in the bird ,,,,,15th open blue riband national rennes ,,,,at 6 years old ;D ;D ;D winning the hundred pound pool £i,800 ;D ;D ;D [first time scoring] ;D Well there you go! great stuff.
jimmy white Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 Well there you go! great stuff. and the same to you hjaltland and hope the hen breeds you something
just ask me Posted May 20, 2008 Report Posted May 20, 2008 yeah ull see these results there is always an expection to the rule but i would say most birds that put in these results are a 1 time thing and useally breed noting if u look at the birds at the top of any national a lot time ull see them scoreing well in there fed or what ever leading up to the race what we all should look for in pigeons is that get results on a regullar basis not hopeing that a pigeon will get in on a smash race i would agree that u might have a bird maybe a little slower that needs that harder day but who wants to keep pigeons for a smash race doesent make any sence i like to top the fed when i see the top names in the fed direclly behind me or national not when i see someone that was never there before i know it wasent a true race something went wrong consisatacy is the word and that what we should all be looking for like i have a 3 year old cock 2 first clubs many other top 10 postions in the club he has 18th fed 20th fed and hes not staying in my raceing loft this year as i know hell never win a nationall and cant see him win a fed simple as way i see it there could be a champion squeallar in my young bird loft and he might not get the chance so why keep him
Guest MBpigeonguy Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 I had a freind that did the same thing with a white hen, she was always last, and at the end of the year he know it was no use keeping her and her parents, so he gave away her parents (to me) along came the last race, 650 miles he just decided he would put her in the race and she would not come home, BUT she comes home 7th overall
jimmy white Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 yeah ull see these results there is always an expection to the rule but i would say most birds that put in these results are a 1 time thing and useally breed noting if u look at the birds at the top of any national a lot time ull see them scoreing well in there fed or what ever leading up to the race what we all should look for in pigeons is that get results on a regullar basis not hopeing that a pigeon will get in on a smash race i would agree that u might have a bird maybe a little slower that needs that harder day but who wants to keep pigeons for a smash race doesent make any sence i like to top the fed when i see the top names in the fed direclly behind me or national not when i see someone that was never there before i know it wasent a true race something went wrong consisatacy is the word and that what we should all be looking for like i have a 3 year old cock 2 first clubs many other top 10 postions in the club he has 18th fed 20th fed and hes not staying in my raceing loft this year as i know hell never win a nationall and cant see him win a fed simple as way i see it there could be a champion squeallar in my young bird loft and he might not get the chance so why keep him yes ,i would say this is generaly true ,, but a bird [especialy distance ] has to be watched ], when its [in my case with this 6 y o] ver having scored b4 ,,but when you think of it only had 3 races per year and was broken to me as a two year old , so in all the time i had it ,it had about 12 races , 3 prep races then 500 mile plus on each 5 to ,600 , and each race it was actualy minutes out the national result , in fact when" sir colin" won a 12th e section from sartilly , i went straight down with the clock, after i got the clocked and came home , the 6 y o[ 4 at that time]was in the loft FRESH , now apart from my excitement , the poor bird , really should have been on that result , so i swore i would never give up on him after that , so at 6 y o, the bird hadnt changed ? but the method did ,, and he obliged so as the old saying in scot goes "the auld heid for the hard road" yes,..... in more ways than one
allwhites Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 as a general rule i would say that the line of thinking from the first thread is totally unethical in a modern day loft, but i did say ''general'', when you add a personal touch and humanity to it then you get a differing ending. If you have kept a family for years, know the birds inside out then when a certain pigeon comes along you know it is good, you know what is in the pigeon waiting to come out and on these occassions it normally does, eventually.
Ronnie Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 Well i have a pied cock sat in my shed now.And i wont get rid of him just because he was one of the first pigeons in my loft and my missus loves him.He go's most races and comes behind the winner every week he's never been the first to the loft in his life but he is going Tarbes this year and i know he will home when he's ready.his youngsters are absolute rubbish and never last more than a week from flying out so i havnt even bred of him this year.But as a foster parent he is worth his weight in gold.Last year i lost a cock from round the loft who was sitting two youngsters when the hen used to get of the nest this pied cock would run in and feed the youngsters .I suppose the point i am trying to make is maybe racing pigeons dont need to race to be an asset to a loft.
Guest Hjaltland Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 his youngsters are absolute rubbish and never last more than a week from flying out Enjoyed your post Ronnie!
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