escaped from transporter

[Lennut Tar]

sour grapes lol

 

Maybe so ???????????   ;) But one mighty quick bird etc (approximately 2500mpm) when you think about it  ;D ;D ;D & not many of them do that velocity, for what I have seen.

PS, it wasn't a head wind was it   :) .

Enjoy.

 

 

 

[PIGEON_MAN]

With regards to ETS, birds still need to be rubbered, and at the clocking station, you need to produce the rubber, therefor the owner of the escapee will not have a rubber to produce

 

Are you saying that you rubber birds that have ETS rings on to go to a race,whats the point of having ETS,surely that would cause twice as much work on basketing nights.

[Tenny]

no. he said if a bird escaped you would rubber remaining birds. then on arrival home they would still be clocked using the ets  but then take the rubber to the club. fancier should be made aware that only rubbered pigeons are eligible to compete in the race.

 

[PIGEON_MAN]

With regards to ETS, birds still need to be rubbered, and at the clocking station, you need to produce the rubber, therefor the owner of the escapee will not have a rubber to produce

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Bluedoo]

no. he said if a bird escaped you would rubber remaining birds. then on arrival home they would still be clocked using the ets  but then take the rubber to the club. fancier should be made aware that only rubbered pigeons are eligible to compete in the race.

 

You would still need to record the ring number otherwise there would be nothing to stop someone turning up with a rubber ring off another bird that arrives later.

 

[Guest milkyal]

We had a race i think in 05 from 68 miles we clocked in after 59 minutes and had all within 15 minutes however a fancier beat us clocking in after 44 minutes flying further and in a less favouralble position on the day.

 

I maintain from that day to this, that bird escaped but nothing was ever done about it - I will see if i can find result to show difference in velocitys  

 

I think you will find that this person was in touch with a member in your club who gave him the wrong time, so he clocked on par with him. If we are talking about the same incident, this fancier was caught the following year in a breeder buyer race when they re-rubbered. He was suspended from all racing.

 

As for birds escaping the correct procedure is to re-rubber all birds.

[Guest Vic]

Would be better to say nothing,  but record what happenned to the o/i/c at the home end., in the event of an impossible velocity being recorded. Too much work any other way!  IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET GOOD CONVOYERS WITHOUT CRUCIFYING THEM. LOL.      [/quote ]This is the way that most convoyers in normal club racing would respond.

We know there are rules from the past, that re-rubbering should occur. You would have a holdover if this happennd! Especially with the ets birds. lol. Mum's the word in convoying, Surely!  There must be some pigeons that remain in the baskets during the year , either dead, damaged and half blind, through various reasons. It's better not knowing the whole truth of this great sport, sometimes.   Convoying, done properly,  is a much harder job than most think.  After some of the previous replies on this topic, I really do believe that the game has changed for the worse. Sad indeed! Vic.

 

 

[sapper756]

no. he said if a bird escaped you would rubber remaining birds. then on arrival home they would still be clocked using the ets  but then take the rubber to the club. fancier should be made aware that only rubbered pigeons are eligible to compete in the race.

 

CORRECT

[Guest Vic]

IF VIC WAS RE-RUBBERING ets birds on a transporter, I would definitely cover two thirds of  ets rings up with the rubber, to put us back on the same level. lol.

[frank-123]

vic no matter if it was covered it still would record the time

i tried it with three rubbers and it still worked after i was told it blocked the chip signal to the pad

some work involved to rubber every bird on the transporter  holding them seems more sensible to me

[frank-123]

i  think when i was younger did the snfc transporter not get broken into in france and birds were released what happened then

or am i thinking of another race

[THE FIFER]

If a bird escapes all birds should be rerubbered, not sure of procedure regarding ets

 

 

its the same with ETs, then you must produce the rubber when taking off clocks.

 

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

i  think when i was younger did the snfc transporter not get broken into in france and birds were released what happened then

or am i thinking of another race

 

is that when gipsie had welsh birds as well moved of site i beleave later lib

[jimmy white]

 

is that when gipsie had welsh birds as well moved of site i beleave later lib

 

sorry, i dont mean to be unkind  chris, but i  cannot understand your post???

 

as for snfc birds being broken into bart ,, cant remember that , but did that not happen in another race ,,,seem to remember something like this,,maybe someone will know what it was [i could be wrong , but something sticks in my mind about this , maybe come to me later,,senility creeping in ;D ;D ;D]

[carlsberg]

is that why nantes was pulled as a lib site? because i remember there was a problem with people breaking into transporters there

[jimmy white]

RPRA ruling is,In the event of any pigeon(s)escaping,convoyer must seek his/her Organisations official regarding emergency action to be taken.

 

this,in my opinion should be the ruling of all organisations ,as the convoyer  should not be able to decide ,it should be down to the race officials and race cotrollers

[mac]

if an escape takes place some organisations insist on the birds being rerubbered this requires the birds id rings being recorded and the new rubber recorded against that bird .  the rule applying to ets birds as per SHU AS follows

quote

in the event of an escape, where required, ETS birds must have their official Union ID Ring Number recorded

unquote

 

the same procedure would be accepted for non ETS after all that is the guarantee that these are the birds competing in that particular race and that is the important requirement.

 

in an escape a method should be adopted by the the organisers to ensure that escapees could not qualify for positions in that particular race.  

[feathers]

Maybe they should have liberated the rest of the birds as  soon as they seen the birds escape the driver said he counted 12 birds

flying round but can he be sure

[Guest Vic]

 

this,in my opinion should be the ruling of all organisations ,as the convoyer  should not be able to decide ,it should be down to the race officials and race cotrollers

As Vic said

in the first place.

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

is that why nantes was pulled as a lib site? because i remember there was a problem with people breaking into transporters there

 

all  i know is report of gypsi had birds of transporter so moved of site

[Guest Vic]

The Gypsy incident happened to the NW Combine birds a few years back, the convoyers

were theatened, and the "hedgehog eaters", actually took birds out of the baskets for their Rosie Lea, no doubt.

[Guest casbri]

iif  any escapes in our fed they would wing stamp other birds on transporter its a big job but got to be done

[pigeonscout]

Our crates have to be labelled with name of club + how many birds are in the crate.

[soontjen21]

should stamp all the birds left on the transporter

that's they way chuck all the  remaing bird's should be stamped with the feds' stamp or a stamp only  known to the sec ,,,  this happend a few years ago in the worcester  fed and all winning bird's should be varified  ,,