opinions please!!!

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

some cracking opinions coming out tonight.

 

What your thoughts on this. I have 3 cocks that are on widdowhood (first time trying it) all yearlings they were flying brilliant around the loft so i decided to send them to the 2nd race 90 miles no training  but flew the y/b program bar 2 races i never got a bird on the day 2 turned up on the sunday then 1 a week later but my tel number had been removed so some one must of had that in. I trained twice per day all the following week out to 20 miles were coming ok, i sent to the 3rd race i had them all bar 1 on the day but a few hours behind the rest of the club birds i havent used the clock now for 2 weeks. This weeks race is 133 miles let them twice a day but now they dont want to fly at home they are being fed light, i am now training on the local transporter out to 30 miles 1st one was today and am gonna continue till thursday. Why are they not interested in flying at home any more opinions please.

[DAVIDL]

 

 

  hi, just my opinion but once racing has started dont train widowhood cocks....excercise them round home unless the odd time you think they need a training toss.....

[Guest]

Well, this is where many roads again, I do ot claim this is the right way but this is what worked for me last year. My YB only had a few tosses in 2007 and then one race at about 68 mile for some the rest had no races.

Then on widowhood in 2008. Between september 2007 and April 2008 my birds never went out because of the percy problem. My widowhood cocks had two tosses before their first race which was 123 mile, prior to this they had been out every day sunday to thursday for two hours. Now when I say out. I mean locked out of the loft. Now I have no idea whether they flew or not because I would dissapear for the 2 hours. If the birds see you hanging around all the time they will think you are going to open the loft and let them in. The first race and taining I lost about 8 cocks but those I had left flew well the entire program culminating in 78th open NFC Tarbes 556 mile. After the first race my birds did not have another training toss with the exception of a 60 miler the saturday before basketing for Tarbes and Marmandes (1st & 2nd).

I have done the same this year , my birds have been in from the 1st week in september to april 20th when the cocks were let out. Today theynhad their first toss from 18 miles, my Tarbes cock took 6 hours!!! and looked in worst nick than when he came from Tarbes but it will have put him right (I hope)

I suggest you are maybe burning them out. I'm a distance guy so I'm not sure whether you need this training to win the sprints but I work on the basis, that you need a good pigeon and good health if you have these then they will get fit naturally with a little help from us, I am of course talking about w/hood. Natural is a different kettle of fish imo.

[Guest]

some cracking opinions coming out tonight.

 

What your thoughts on this. I have 3 cocks that are on widdowhood (first time trying it) all yearlings they were flying brilliant around the loft so i decided to send them to the 2nd race 90 miles no training  but flew the y/b program bar 2 races i never got a bird on the day 2 turned up on the sunday then 1 a week later but my tel number had been removed so some one must of had that in. I trained twice per day all the following week out to 20 miles were coming ok, i sent to the 3rd race i had them all bar 1 on the day but a few hours behind the rest of the club birds i havent used the clock now for 2 weeks. This weeks race is 133 miles let them twice a day but now they dont want to fly at home they are being fed light, i am now training on the local transporter out to 30 miles 1st one was today and am gonna continue till thursday. Why are they not interested in flying at home any more opinions please.

:-/So no training before first race ,so as yearlings how do they know there on widowhood, I think your asking to much of these birds mate as many seem to on here.

 

 

[Tony C]

Have you been training them back to their hens this week?

[just ask me]

well in my opinion there two things here my first guess is there not actually on widowhood i know u might have gone though the motions of pairing up laying eggs and all that its really hard to judge when we cant actually see the set up and what u have done with the birds

 

other thing could be a management problem as in a health problem but id bet there not actually on the system correct

 

at the end of the day its your first time we all make mistakes its up too u too learn from them what i would suggest is to get dave allens widowhood year book it might be old but for me out of all the books ive read on widowhood its explains the system very well i myself fly a different system to dave system in that book but i feel for anyone trying widowhood for the first time it wont put u wrong and is a great book to start on widowhood

[Ronnie]

providing the birds are healthy i would put it down to feed.Whether there on widowhood or not they shouldnt be that far behind.Do you feed the same time each day and how much do you feed.You say your feeding light are you sure your not feeding to light?