Guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Posted June 5, 2009 As i have many questions on these fantastic birds evry day,have any other members flown them as i know many in wales have this family,but may be not like mine THE REAL DEAL ;D
retired Posted June 5, 2009 Report Posted June 5, 2009 Although i havent tried any of these of yours yet Whitenight the fact you gave up the bulk of your Linderaufs for them tells me everything i need to know about them. I look forward to trying them in 2010 and have no doubt about your judgement of the birds.
just ask me Posted June 5, 2009 Report Posted June 5, 2009 some info on these lads would be great let us in on the secert ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 lol its 'BIG UP' time MY WHITES BEAT YOU IN THE OPEN RACE ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tony C Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 hahaha I think I'll stick with my all conquering fed champions thank you ;D
Guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 hahaha I think I'll stick with my all conquering fed champions thank you ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 I got one or three mate and they do the business if worked right. 8) I'll admit I'm not in your league when it comes to Shadows though but not ashamed to admit that, although I remember this top man telling me that if you got the tools its then down to the craftsman to make the best of what he has. You up for sharing some of them lines mate you got? I have some ideas I want to try with mine. 8) Chrisss, I've noticed that your one angry man at times, why? Whiteknight from what I hear is a top man and knows his birds, so what, what's with the green eyed monster? Stop spoiling the threads by picking fights with anyone and everyone.
just ask me Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 like how did they start the base of them what distance are they best at
Guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 like how did they start the base of them what distance are they best at V, loon based family,A,VAN BERKEL is the daddy of this strain I would race these up to 400 miles.And yes v,loon has had grizzels
Guest spin cycle Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 V, loon based family,A,VAN BERKEL is the daddy of this strain I would race these up to 400 miles.And yes v,loon has had grizzels i got 3rd club perth (300 miles) with van loon grizzle last week
swilcox Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 As we have a holdover i got some time on my hands. Many fanciers have won worldwide with Silver Shodow Van Loons form Eijerkamp, my own best friend Nigel Templer has won 1st Open Classic 1st Section NFC and 1st Combine with them. Nigel wanted to add to his family and search through the breeding list of the Family Eijerkamp, he noticed that they had been heavily crossed so he asked me to track down some inbred shadows, what i found was the creator Aad Van Berkel and a beutiful and silky inbred family. Aad Van Berkel from Rotterdam managed to get some pigeons from his then Father in Laws family Comb V D Werf these were mainly Cheq and Blue Van Loons, however he was also gifted a Grizzle Tournier Pigeon. Hen paired the Grizzle Tournier with a cheq Van Loon called Rominger and from that pair in 1993 94 and 95 bred alot of nestpairs of Grizzle cocks. These Grizzle cocks became Silver Shadow. Silver Man Silver Boy Silver Bullet etc. Now at that time Tournier was a distance strain but Aad was very much an upto middle distance fancer, these grizzles excelled esp in tough races, this didnt go un noticed by the Family Eijerkamp who done a deal for Silver Shadow and Silver Bullet, other after that went to the Greenfield stud as well such was the Eijerkamps success with these birds. Concerned for his decission Aad Van Berkel bred tightly around the remaining brothers and has bred an inbred family of Silver Shadow van loons.
swilcox Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 This basket of ybs was part of 24 bound for ireland in 2009 Alot of Chinesse and Tiawenese fanciers flock to Van Berkels every year, they say the grizzle lines are the most consistant in there difficult and hot climate.
Mixxy Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 who bred them 24 and where to in ireland please?
Guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 As we have a holdover i got some time on my hands. Many fanciers have won worldwide with Silver Shodow Van Loons form Eijerkamp, my own best friend Nigel Templer has won 1st Open Classic 1st Section NFC and 1st Combine with them. Nigel wanted to add to his family and search through the breeding list of the Family Eijerkamp, he noticed that they had been heavily crossed so he asked me to track down some inbred shadows, what i found was the creator Aad Van Berkel and a beutiful and silky inbred family. Aad Van Berkel from Rotterdam managed to get some pigeons from his then Father in Laws family Comb V D Werf these were mainly Cheq and Blue Van Loons, however he was also gifted a Grizzle Tournier Pigeon. Hen paired the Grizzle Tournier with a cheq Van Loon called Rominger and from that pair in 1993 94 and 95 bred alot of nestpairs of Grizzle cocks. These Grizzle cocks became Silver Shadow. Silver Man Silver Boy Silver Bullet etc. Now at that time Tournier was a distance strain but Aad was very much an upto middle distance fancer, these grizzles excelled esp in tough races, this didnt go un noticed by the Family Eijerkamp who done a deal for Silver Shadow and Silver Bullet, other after that went to the Greenfield stud as well such was the Eijerkamps success with these birds. Concerned for his decission Aad Van Berkel bred tightly around the remaining brothers and has bred an inbred family of Silver Shadow van loons. Tony may from bristol has won many prizes with them as well,PLEASE NOTE I HAVE NONE FOR SALE AT THIS TIME :'( :'(
Guest numpty01 Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 k d evans also had a number of the shadow lines did they not stuart and were they not prodominatly dark grizzle.s also aj sales from weston supermare had a number as well
Guest chrisss Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 November 26, 2008, 8:02pm there is a good thread about these birds dated above on this site, that appear to be the "biz",i think it was called "THE REAL SILVER SHADOWS" very nice looking birds
thunderboult Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 As i have many questions on these fantastic birds evry day,have any other members flown them as i know many in wales have this family,but may be not like mine THE REAL DEAL ;D i've not flown silver shadows, but a few of tournier/van loon of van de merwe through jutla bros(similar based birds) and i found them to be good racers winning well upto 365mls but going down at 437 on tidy days, i'd say they're upto 400 although it may be just the ones i have.
swilcox Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 Mixxy the 24 were bred by Aad Van Berkel!!! Destination is a well kept secret im afraid you know what folk are like.
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