fantastic grizzles

[BLACK W F]

was wondering does any body race this guys doos mr Lamsdale of newport seen somewhere they where the best ever grizzle family in wales think a guy in portsmouth had them  they where outstanding  grizzles kirkpatricks i think they where

[Guest thunderbird]

t lamsdale acquired these kirkpatrick's from the late peter Thomas of Newport a number have made their way to Ireland. peter Thomas was one of the best old distance flyer's there are and is sadly missed. a number have made their way to England in an exchange for whites i believe

[BLACK W F]

t lamsdale acquired these kirkpatrick's from the late peter Thomas of Newport a number have made their way to Ireland. peter Thomas was one of the best old distance flyer's there are and is sadly missed. a number have made their way to England in an exchange for whites i believe

 

thanks mate i was told they where the best grizzle family in wales and to come out as they where top class

[Guest thunderbird]

the one.s that left pete's loft were selected for the job they had to do over fifty years of selection gave him the best..it was stated that they were shadows but those of us that knew peter knew he never had any of that breed.i would consider them to be the best birds i have owned and sold..although Mr lamsdale still has a few pairs but the youngsters are going again to England in an exchange

[Guest stb-]

These sound top class birds, why were they caled shaddows in the first instance :)

[Guest thunderbird]

mainly due to the colour being dark grizzle smoked grizzle and white grizzle predominantly as colour of shadows van loons it was stated the best vanlon were grizzle so easy to confuse

[Guest thunderbird]

the Kirkpatrick were a number of colour es but peter bred around the grizzle side of the Kirkpatrick

[pjc]

Its a shame when birds lose there origins, fanciers spend a lifetime working with a family and enhanceing it for somebody to spoils all the hard work.

[Guest thunderbird]

Its a shame when birds lose there origins, fanciers spend a lifetime working with a family and enhancing it for somebody to spoils all the hard work.

yes you are correct but i must say i think the ones.s that went to Ireland will stay as they are the others who can say??

 

 

[pjc]

I remember taking my parent to a loft near Stoke on Trent for some Kirks, they were outstanding, didn't matter what colour they were they were all like peas in a pod.

 

Why do people want to change succesful family's of birds?

[Guest stb-]

I remember taking my parent to a loft near Stoke on Trent for some Kirks, they were outstanding, didn't matter what colour they were they were all like peas in a pod.

 

Why do people want to change succesful family's of birds?

 

WHAT HAVE THEY CHNGED THEM TO PHIL :)

[pjc]

 

WHAT HAVE THEY CHNGED THEM TO PHIL :)

 

you are often hearing of people having birds of whatever breed then calling them there own family, crossed or not, or selling them as the latest fad! I supose its no different to the Belgiums do!

[Guest stb-]

 

you are often hearing of people having birds of whatever breed then calling them there own family, crossed or not, or selling them as the latest fad! I supose its no different to the Belgiums do!

 

YES TO MUCH OF THAT GOES ON M8 ,TAKES THE CREDIT AWAY FROM THE STRAIN MAKER

[BLACK W F]

 

YES TO MUCH OF THAT GOES ON M8 ,TAKES THE CREDIT AWAY FROM THE STRAIN MAKER

 

that would be aterrable thing to do Rab as it is nothing more than conning folk  should always give credit where credit is due  and keep the name of the family going JMO

[Guest thunderbird]

these days you can buy pair birds then sell them as another breed if you wish; the youngsters that is ?we should design some sort of registrar so we know what we are buying.but i think if you wish to buy birds the way forward is ring the person.s secretary who i would suspect would be happy to confirm the winning claims or indeed the birds that fancier has

[pjc]

DNA

[Guest stb-]

these days you can buy pair birds then sell them as another breed if you wish; the youngsters that is ?we should design some sort of registrar so we know what we are buying

 

THINK THE DNA FEATHER TEST WOLD UNCOVE A FEW DARK SECRETS  :X ??) ??) ??)

[pjc]

wouldn't uncover secrets just the conn merchents trying to make a quick buck!

[billt]

Its a shame when birds lose there origins, fanciers spend a lifetime working with a family and enhanceing it for somebody to spoils all the hard work.

 

Couldn't agree more Phil, A fancier spends years putting a family together and they must be good as we know the strains by name, then people buy them and start crossing them as if they know better, what a waste

[Guest stb-]

wouldn't uncover secrets just the conn merchents trying to make a quick buck!

 

THATS WHAT I MEAN PHIL THE DARK SIDE   ;)

[Guest thunderbird]

i think to be fair to fanciers as a whole there are not that many that do con but the few that do well lets hope they are found out

[BLACK W F]

 

THATS WHAT I MEAN PHIL THE DARK SIDE   ;)

 

yes the dark side of our sport rip off merchants if caught should be banned for life

[Guest thunderbird]

right its been nice chatting to you but i have a meeting to attend to  of a cock and hen hahaha night lads

[pjc]

right its been nice chatting to you but i have a meeting to attend to  of a cock and hen hahaha night lads

 

chase then hens, keep clear of the cocks!

[BLACK W F]

right its been nice chatting to you but i have a meeting to attend to  of a cock and hen hahaha night lads

 

stay lucky   :P :P