One loft race

[pigeonpete]

 

pete  dont mean to sound down on the idea but some dont realise just whats involved pm jeremy he will put you right on this its a fine line between getting it right and total failure its very hard work and quite expencive to get it right all the best if you decide to give it a go   ;)

 

Appreciate that mate, and have considered all the downsides, but ultimately i want it to be fun and rewarding for the fancier, and at 100 birds max, im sure i could cope with a little help :-)

 

No offence taken frank, i will listen to any ones views :-)

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Word of warning remember the Edinbourgh one loft race.Very upsetting for those who sent birds not to say what it took out the guy who ran it.

 

Not to say i would not be interested,just think about things.Use other one loft races in order to inhance your chances of sucess.Hopetoun house to Wales is an other to be learned from.just because visitors are well oiled at the home end, does not mean the birds go up whatever the conditions.

 

Sure you will think of all these things all the best

[cowman]

the only thing i see by having all the birds from one place i would not pay for entry to an unknown bird if i was to enter i would want to send a home bred bird that you know has a chance rather than a bird you know nothing about .

[harky]

i would not be interisted if i couldnt enter my own birds but that might suit some as harky says we all have had our ups and downs with all the different races ive sent to the rpra one for 5 years and never realy had a prob execpt the one year they changed the final race distance to me thats not on if they say 250mls at the start thats what it is i understand there reasons for it but i think its a completly different train of thoughts regarding 1 loft races the birds are there for 1 reason and 1 only the final race some just cant get that into there heads if you dont think your birds can with stand all the training and final race then dont send jeremy has over the last 4/5 years got it bang on he will give the birds that have had a hard 1 a rest but doesnt pussy foot about and he gets them back on raceing been to most of them more than once and without doubt the rpra is by far the best and fairest JMO

 

Last years disaster put me right of the RPRA race as my pigeons never even made the basket and there was never any update of any of the birds returning from the paraglider incident, ok what happened is just one of those unfortunate things but at least they could have offered every one who lost youngins a refund or free entry to this years, same old story like any buisnees got your money so stuff you is their attitude  

[pigeonpete]

 

Last years disaster put me right of the RPRA race as my pigeons never even made the basket and there was never any update of any of the birds returning from the paraglider incident, ok what happened is just one of those unfortunate things but at least they could have offered every one who lost youngins a refund or free entry to this years, same old story like any buisnees got your money so stuff you is their attitude  

 

Sorry you feel like that mate,

 

I will try my best to keep everyone happy, and have taken notice of your points :-)

[Guest kevin b]

Every one loft race is a gamble, nothing more nothing less.

You intrust your birds to someone you hope will look after them and care for them as you would have, but at the end of the day they go out in the open like any other bird and anything can happen.

 

I had a couple going well in Galway last year and bang 400 on the day gone, bad weather,bad training, bad location, bad management dont know but wont put them there again. What can you do if a paraglider hits them, absolutly nothing its just a freak happening.

 

Pete I wish you well mate, 100 birds is small but might just be right for your first go at the one loft, as I said before the information is a huge part of any one loft and investing in a decent website that you can use for any further races is a must IMO.

 

My personal attitude to OL races is this, when I send a bird its gone, You pay the money and send the best you have to compete but its gone from your control and its in the lap of the gods. It may get sick it may not it may be eaten by a BOP it may not it may even hit a wire you never know and anything I get is a bonus, getting the bird to the final race is an achivement for me and the organiser. So take them for what they are, a gamble if you expect them wrapped in cooton wool leave them at home.

 

Good luck with it Pete.

 

 

Kevin

[Guest bakes]

i havent got no problem of sending birds down for this olr next year as no pete will try his best for everyone that enters plus gives me an insight to see if my birds can hold there own else were when the programme is finished what will be happen to the birds will they be auctioned off pete mate

 

all the best.

[pigeonpete]

Cheers for that Kevin. im worried sick now of letting them out!!  ;D yes i do have hawks, And a few wires, And yes guaranteed i will lose a few, But For £40 a bird if people can send 2/3 birds, there is a good chance they will have 1 or 2 left come the final race. please keep the ideas, and any thoughts anyone might have, the more ideas i get the easier it will be for me to try and please the majority when i come to do the (boring) rules and regs bit later in the year,

 

Has anyone thought how they would prefer the prize money to be paid? think off the top of my head there will be 6 yb races in total, would people prefer say 5 small prizes for 5 winners of the first 5 races, then bigger amounts for top 5 in last race? or just 1 bigger cash prize for the last race?

 

 

If i get my maximum 100 birds, at £40 per bird gives us £4000, minus maximum £300 for race fees, and £200 put aside incase of any hiccups, (medications i may require) And get a couple of sponsors involved. (my driving school for 1)

 

so say we have got £4000 prize fund in total. You tell me what you would like doing, After all its your birds,your money, your enjoyment, :-)

[BLACK W F]

 

Sorry you feel like that mate,

 

I will try my best to keep everyone happy, and have taken notice of your points :-)

 

thats an impossable task  but best of luck  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pigeonpete]

i havent got no problem of sending birds down for this olr next year as no pete will try his best for everyone that enters plus gives me an insight to see if my birds can hold there own else were when the programme is finished what will be happen to the birds will they be auctioned off pete mate

 

all the best.

 

glad you mentioned ( the what happend to the birds bit mate :-) like i say will be totally upfront with any questions asked.  at the end the birds will be auctioned off on here, Money will be split 40% to the breeder, 40% to me, and 20% to a pigeon related charity, to be decided by whom i dont know yet. If no bids on the birds i will keep them and race them :-)

 

i think that is fair, As all the enterant money will be paid out in prize money( no cut attall for me) But again if people dont like the idea of this then please say on open forum.

 

 

i have had confirmation off valance and fifer that i can call it the pigeonbasics oneloftrace. So many thanks to them :-) Main thing it will be fun, and will see how your birds get on against others, And for £40 i think is great value, for the bird to be fed,trained, (cared for) raced everyweek, and even the chance to win a few hundred quid :-). What you got to lose? :-)

[Guest kevin b]

£40 is not a lot of money for a OLR and I dont think you will have any problems filling it up with 100 birds.

 

Personally I would keep the last race as THE race and maybe split 2000 between the top 10 for this one.

ie. 1st 800, 2nd 400, 3rd 200, 4th 100, ect

The other half could be split for hot spots 5 races X £300 divided to the top 3 or 5 places and £500 for the Ace bird in all races.

 

Just something to get you thinking, eveyone would have a chance of getting a few quid and if someone wins anything it will encourage them back next year.

 

Kevin

[pigeonpete]

£40 is not a lot of money for a OLR and I dont think you will have any problems filling it up with 100 birds.

 

Personally I would keep the last race as THE race and maybe split 2000 between the top 10 for this one.

ie. 1st 800, 2nd 400, 3rd 200, 4th 100, ect

The other half could be split for hot spots 5 races X £300 divided to the top 3 or 5 places and £500 for the Ace bird in all races.

 

Just something to get you thinking, eveyone would have a chance of getting a few quid and if someone wins anything it will encourage them back next year.

 

Kevin

 

You want a job Kevin :-)

 

was thinging pretty similiar lines myself :-)

[Guest kevin b]

You want a job Kevin

 

Yeah my hands are going soft sitting here, sorry off to do the dishes and put the dinner on, Im a kept man Pete.

 

Have to wean myself off this keyboard soon  ;D ;D ;D

 

Kevin

[pigeonpete]

You want a job Kevin

 

Yeah my hands are going soft sitting here, sorry off to do the dishes and put the dinner on, Im a kept man Pete.

 

Have to wean myself off this keyboard soon  ;D ;D ;D

 

Kevin

 

you mean you have told to get of that bloody computer now  ;D ;D

[Guest kevin b]

 

you mean you have told to get of that bloody computer now  ;D ;D

 

Read like a book ;D ;D ;D