DOVEScot Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 We had a pigeon hawked today and it looks like it may need stitched, what is the best type of thread to use please
rembrant2coo Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 We had a pigeon hawked today and it looks like it may need stitched, what is the best type of thread to use please not one off here ,they could be all bad
rooster Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 i would just use super glue , works a treat ,
Larry Lucas Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 you can purchase sterile desolving sutures online, which includes a surgical needle. But I normally use white cotton sewing thread with a sewing needle. Flush the wound with hydrogen peroxide and wet the sewing thread and needle with alcohol. These cotton sutures can be clipped at the knot later and removed with a tweezer.
just ask me Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 i find if u want to race the bird again use as little stitches as possible especially around the breast muscle as it seems to stretch the skin and around the muscle u want it as flexible as possible also pigeons seem to have great heeling skills this is my own opinion of course a vet might tell u different
the pigeon_milker Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 i take it to the vet if the wound is deep or in an award place if not to bad i would try an glue it or get butterfly stitcher's if ya can get them to stick i only ever had one that needed the vet and he said they dont do well under anesthetic and that could kill it if the stress don't i had it done and he lived for many years but i never raced back then so don't know if slowed him down good luck what ever you decide to do
jimmy_bulger Posted September 26, 2008 Report Posted September 26, 2008 i was taught to use white cotton run thru the liquid wax on the top of a lit candle,its always worked for me.
Guest IB Posted September 26, 2008 Report Posted September 26, 2008 Any of my birds that I have had to attend didn't require stitching; all I did was plug the wound with a sealant paste, and the ends knitted together OK. I agree with the use of glue rather than stitches. Have had both used on me, and in my opinion, superglue wins, especially if stitches are of the non-self-dissolving type. Need to take care that you don't glue feathers etc into the wound tho.
THE FIFER Posted September 26, 2008 Report Posted September 26, 2008 pull the cut together with surgical tape
jimmy white Posted September 26, 2008 Report Posted September 26, 2008 you can purchase sterile desolving sutures online, which includes a surgical needle. But I normally use white cotton sewing thread with a sewing needle. Flush the wound with hydrogen peroxide and wet the sewing thread and needle with alcohol. These cotton sutures can be clipped at the knot later and removed with a tweezer. in the past ,in fact just a few weeks ago, i did stitch a pigeon [which i have done on many occssions] i have allways used white thread dabbing the wound with savlon and dipping the needle and thread in savlon,, but after reading larry lucas,s last few threads, and asking my own avian vet , who was kind enough to supply me with a sponge and alcohol,,,free [no, i havent drank it ] these two knowledgable gentlemen, have certainly endorsed the fact that any needle used on a pigeon must be sterilized with alcohol, both to stop any infection , and, if the needle is used on any other pigeon , to stop the spread of infection , i am of the opinion now, that this is a must , for a variety of reasons
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Posted September 27, 2008 Thanks for everyone's help and advice, due to the nature of the cut I decided to use white thread and sterilize the needle with surgical spirit I did not use glue because the gizzard was showing and did not want any glue leaking on to it :-/
superstar Posted September 27, 2008 Report Posted September 27, 2008 Sound that Dovescote, I always use a curved needle and cotton drawn through a sponge with surgical spirit soaked in it and never had a problem
the pigeon_milker Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 Thanks for everyone's help and advice, due to the nature of the cut I decided to use white thread and sterilize the needle with surgical spirit I did not use glue because the gizzard was showing and did not want any glue leaking on to it :-/hows it getting on now is it healing well
DOVEScot Posted October 1, 2008 Author Report Posted October 1, 2008 hows it getting on now is it healing well The bird is healing fine but it is very stressed, the last one we had hawked never leaves the loft but it is hand tame again
Guest IB Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 in the past ,in fact just a few weeks ago, i did stitch a pigeon [which i have done on many occssions] i have allways used white thread dabbing the wound with savlon and dipping the needle and thread in savlon,, but after reading larry lucas,s last few threads, and asking my own avian vet , who was kind enough to supply me with a sponge and alcohol,,,free [no, i havent drank it ] these two knowledgable gentlemen, have certainly endorsed the fact that any needle used on a pigeon must be sterilized with alcohol, both to stop any infection , and, if the needle is used on any other pigeon , to stop the spread of infection , i am of the opinion now, that this is a must , for a variety of reasons That was something I posted on here about, a couple of years back when Colombovac couldn't be had; Nobilis provide a sterilisation kit with their vaccine: a small bottle of surgical spirit, 2 small sponges and a plastic cup. Instructions were to pour some spirit into the cup then dip the sponge into the cup which soaks up the spirit. After vaccinating one pigeon, jab needle into the sponge to sterilise it before vaccinating the next, and so on. I also rubbed a finger tip in the sponge and pressed that onto the injection site too. Although I am back onto Colombovac, I still use the Nobilis Sterilisation kit between each pigeon.
DOVEScot Posted October 1, 2008 Author Report Posted October 1, 2008 That was something I posted on here about, a couple of years back when Colombovac couldn't be had; Nobilis provide a sterilisation kit with their vaccine: a small bottle of surgical spirit, 2 small sponges and a plastic cup. Instructions were to pour some spirit into the cup then dip the sponge into the cup which soaks up the spirit. After vaccinating one pigeon, jab needle into the sponge to sterilise it before vaccinating the next, and so on. I also rubbed a finger tip in the sponge and pressed that onto the injection site too. Although I am back onto Colombovac, I still use the Nobilis Sterilisation kit between each pigeon. What kind of thread did you use :-/
The Navigator Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 I have always used cotton and never had any side effects.
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