Guest joshdonlan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Im thinking of doing a preventative treatment for Paratyphiod with Parastop. I have never used this before. What is the most economical way to do them? Is it the tablets? If so what is the dosage? 1 tablet per bird and then they are done or what? http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/166799_belgica_parastop_tablets_50pk.php Thanks Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Instructions: 2x daily, 1 tablet during 5 - 8 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joshdonlan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Instructions: 2x daily, 1 tablet during 5 - 8 days. Dont understand this? So you would give 3 tablets per pigeon??? 1 Monday 1 Tuesday 1 5-8 days later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 twice a day for 5 to 8 days josh, thats how i read it mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joshdonlan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 thats alot of pills dont think its right mate. Not very clear on the site is it :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 better using the powder mate, put on feed Instructions: ParaStop® Preventive: from the end of the moulting season up to the breeding season: to eliminate as much as possible “carriers†and “excretes†8 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*). Curing: 10 - 14 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbok Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 two tablets daily for five to eight days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakes Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 better using the powder mate, put on feed Instructions: ParaStop® Preventive: from the end of the moulting season up to the breeding season: to eliminate as much as possible “carriers†and “excretes†8 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*). Curing: 10 - 14 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*). thats what i used the de weed powder a course of that then the vaccine never had no problems no side affects when i did 09 ybs all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubber duck Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 wouldnt be so bad if it worked its a load of crap a lot better products on the market just look wot % it is theres alot more powerfull products out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joshdonlan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 what are the better products? :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 what are the better products? :-/ baytril/ amoxycylin. are to of them. remember parastop is an antibiotic and is not registered for use in the uk, Parastops active ingredient is Norfloxacin a Quinolone class antibiotic. dont abuse it. In fact i wouldnt even use it. its not that great a product in my opinion. jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doade Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 baytril/ amoxycylin. are to of them. remember parastop is an antibiotic and is not registered for use in the uk, Parastops active ingredient is Norfloxacin a Quinolone class antibiotic. dont abuse it. In fact i wouldnt even use it. its not that great a product in my opinion. jas but parastop is freely available in the UK so how can it not be registered ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbok Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 bit like a few other things that are freely available lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 but parastop is freely available in the UK so how can it not be registered ? There is no antibiotic that is freely available that is not registered. Its the same as anything it can be bought and brought over. there are people selling baytril on ebay, that isnt available unless it from a vet but people do sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doade Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 bit like a few other things that are freely available lol dont believe you said that Neil ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 There is no antibiotic that is freely available that is not registered. Its the same as anything it can be bought and brought over. there are people selling baytril on ebay, that isnt available unless it from a vet but people do sell it. always get mine from the vets, i could get it a lot cheaper from elsewhere but it might have been diluted down or not the proper stuff so would rather pay that little bit more just to be on the safe side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorsloft Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 wouldnt be so bad if it worked its a load of crap a lot better products on the market just look wot % it is theres alot more powerfull products out there two fingers round there necks works wonders in my loft :X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearse1888 Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 dont think it works imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 always get mine from the vets, i could get it a lot cheaper from elsewhere but it might have been diluted down or not the proper stuff so would rather pay that little bit more just to be on the safe side Thats exactly the reason why it should always come from a vet. you are exactly right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doade Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Thats exactly the reason why it should always come from a vet. you are exactly right. De Weerd should maybe be at Blackpool you can ask him then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joshdonlan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 so before you vaccinate would you treat with amoxycylin or baytril? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 so before you vaccinate would you treat with amoxycylin or baytril? I always use amoxycylin. thats what i get supplied by my vet with on his advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IB Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 so before you vaccinate would you treat with amoxycylin or baytril? No offence, but I'd recommend you do a bit of homework on paratyphoid before going down this road. There's a fresh thread on it describing what appears to be a paratyphoid outbreak in birds just gone through this 'preventative' treatment. There's a lot of science saying it does the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 No offence, but I'd recommend you do a bit of homework on paratyphoid before going down this road. There's a fresh thread on it describing what appears to be a paratyphoid outbreak in birds just gone through this 'preventative' treatment. There's a lot of science saying it does the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve. I have done my homework. I have just added a series of questions on the baytril thread answered by some of the top pigeon vets and they are all 100% agreed that you must treat prior if there is any signs of salmonella in the loft and amoxyclin or baytril is there preferred method of treatment. Jas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joshdonlan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 No offence, but I'd recommend you do a bit of homework on paratyphoid before going down this road. There's a fresh thread on it describing what appears to be a paratyphoid outbreak in birds just gone through this 'preventative' treatment. There's a lot of science saying it does the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve. So are you saying its best not to treat as a preventative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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