Parastop

[Guest joshdonlan]

Im thinking of doing a preventative treatment for Paratyphiod with Parastop. I have never used this before. What is the most economical way to do them? Is it the tablets? If so what is the dosage? 1 tablet per bird and then they are done or what?

 

http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/166799_belgica_parastop_tablets_50pk.php

 

Thanks

 

Josh

[blackdog]

Instructions: 2x daily, 1 tablet during 5 - 8 days.

[Guest joshdonlan]

Instructions: 2x daily, 1 tablet during 5 - 8 days.

 

Dont understand this? So you would give 3 tablets per pigeon???

 

1 Monday

1 Tuesday

1 5-8 days later?

[blackdog]

twice a day for 5 to 8 days josh, thats how i read it mate

[Guest joshdonlan]

thats alot of pills   dont think its right mate. Not very clear on the site is it  :-/

[blackdog]

better using the powder mate, put on feed

 

Instructions: ParaStop®

Preventive: from the end of the moulting season up to the breeding season:

to eliminate as much as possible “carriers†and “excretes†8 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*).

Curing: 10 - 14 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*).

[Guest bigbok]

two tablets daily for five to eight days

[Guest bakes]

better using the powder mate, put on feed

 

Instructions: ParaStop®

Preventive: from the end of the moulting season up to the breeding season:

to eliminate as much as possible “carriers†and “excretes†8 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*).

Curing: 10 - 14 days consecutive, 1 sachet per 2 liters of water or 1 sachet per 1 kilogram of grains (*).

 

thats what i used the de weed powder a course of that then the vaccine never had no problems no side affects when i did 09 ybs

 

 

all the best

[rubber duck]

wouldnt be so bad if it worked its a load of crap a lot better products on the market just look wot % it is theres alot more powerfull products out there

[Guest joshdonlan]

what are the better products?  :-/

[holmsidelofts]

what are the better products?  :-/

baytril/ amoxycylin. are to of them. remember parastop is an antibiotic and is not registered for use in the uk, Parastops active ingredient is Norfloxacin a Quinolone class antibiotic. dont abuse it. In fact i wouldnt even use it. its not that great a product in my opinion.

 

jas

 

 

 

[Guest Doade]

baytril/ amoxycylin. are to of them. remember parastop is an antibiotic and is not registered for use in the uk, Parastops active ingredient is Norfloxacin a Quinolone class antibiotic. dont abuse it. In fact i wouldnt even use it. its not that great a product in my opinion.

 

jas

 

 

 

but parastop is freely available in the UK so how can it not be registered ?

 

 

[Guest bigbok]

bit like a few other things that are freely available lol

[holmsidelofts]

 

but parastop is freely available in the UK so how can it not be registered ?

 

 

There is no antibiotic that is freely available that is not registered. Its the same as anything it can be bought and brought over. there are people selling baytril on ebay, that isnt available unless it from a vet but people do sell it.

 

 

[Guest Doade]

bit like a few other things that are freely available lol

 

 

 

dont believe you said that Neil  ;D

 

[blackdog]

 

There is no antibiotic that is freely available that is not registered. Its the same as anything it can be bought and brought over. there are people selling baytril on ebay, that isnt available unless it from a vet but people do sell it.

 

 

always get mine from the vets, i could get it a lot cheaper from elsewhere but it might have been diluted down or not the proper stuff so would rather pay that little bit more just to be on the safe side

 

 

[Taylorsloft]

wouldnt be so bad if it worked its a load of crap a lot better products on the market just look wot % it is theres alot more powerfull products out there

 

two fingers round there necks works wonders in my loft  :X

[pearse1888]

dont think it works imo

[holmsidelofts]

 

always get mine from the vets, i could get it a lot cheaper from elsewhere but it might have been diluted down or not the proper stuff so would rather pay that little bit more just to be on the safe side

 

 

Thats exactly the reason why it should always come from a vet. you are exactly right.

 

[Guest Doade]

 

Thats exactly the reason why it should always come from a vet. you are exactly right.

 

 

De Weerd should maybe be at Blackpool you can ask him then

 

 

[Guest joshdonlan]

so before you vaccinate would you treat with amoxycylin or baytril?

[holmsidelofts]

so before you vaccinate would you treat with amoxycylin or baytril?

 

I always use amoxycylin. thats what i get supplied by my vet with on his advice.

 

[Guest IB]

so before you vaccinate would you treat with amoxycylin or baytril?

 

No offence, but I'd recommend you do a bit of homework on paratyphoid before going down this road. There's a fresh thread on it describing what appears to be a paratyphoid outbreak in birds just gone through this 'preventative' treatment.

 

There's a lot of science saying it does the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

[holmsidelofts]

 

No offence, but I'd recommend you do a bit of homework on paratyphoid before going down this road. There's a fresh thread on it describing what appears to be a paratyphoid outbreak in birds just gone through this 'preventative' treatment.

 

There's a lot of science saying it does the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

 

I have done my homework. I have just added a series of questions on the baytril thread answered by some of the top pigeon vets and they are all 100% agreed that you must treat prior if there is any signs of salmonella in the loft and amoxyclin or baytril is there preferred method of treatment.

 

Jas.

 

[Guest joshdonlan]

 

No offence, but I'd recommend you do a bit of homework on paratyphoid before going down this road. There's a fresh thread on it describing what appears to be a paratyphoid outbreak in birds just gone through this 'preventative' treatment.

 

There's a lot of science saying it does the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

 

So are you saying its best not to treat as a preventative?