ENROFLOX 10%

[Guest strapper]

Enrofloxacin (Baytril)

 

(for veterinary information only

 

 

a little info

A major breakthrough was the development of the fluoroquinolone class of antibiotics (including enrofloxacin, its counterpart for human use ciprofloxacin, and several others). These medications are active against many bacterial types including Pseudomonas. They are available as tablets and are not associated with the serious side effects that plagued the aminoglycoside group

[Novice]

Ive just watched one of the UK Masters DVDs and theres a flyer on there who treats his birds every year with Baytril as a precaution  :-/

 

Best avoid buying from him

 

 

[Guest duncan mckay]

here we go again lol

[Guest joshdonlan]

Ive just watched one of the UK Masters DVDs and theres a flyer on there who treats his birds every year with Baytril as a precaution  :-/

 

Keith Morgan

[dwh]

Ive just watched one of the UK Masters DVDs and theres a flyer on there who treats his birds every year with Baytril as a precaution  :-/

 

he's not on his own :-/

[Guest strapper]

Ive just watched one of the UK Masters DVDs and theres a flyer on there who treats his birds every year with Baytril as a precaution  :-/

 

any medication can be bad ...as long as its administered correctly there shouldnt be any long term damage.

its when idiots think that medications will improve their results,when they dont! if a bird gets better results after treatment its down to that birds ability the medication only cleared up what was stopping that bird getting there.

[Guest joshdonlan]

 

any medication can be bad ...as long as its administered correctly there shouldnt be any long term damage.

its when idiots think that medications will improve their results,when they dont! if a bird gets better results after treatment its down to that birds ability the medication only cleared up what was stopping that bird getting there.

 

Agree mate. First sense ive heard from you  ;D Gerard England Captain  ;D

[Guest peter4pm]

If we could get back to my question guys .

 

Which was ....Had anybody used this product to solve a disease problem?? and had the results been sucessfull??

[Guest strapper]

 

Agree mate. First sense ive heard from you  ;D Gerard England Captain  ;D

 

:P    ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Guest joshdonlan]

If its the same as Baytril which is a tried and tested treatment i cant see why not as long as you do what Paul says  

[david.j]

linco -spectin also on ebay

[dwh]

If we could get back to my question guys .

 

Which was ....Had anybody used this product to solve a disease problem?? and had the results been sucessfull??

 

i think what the the lads are saying its basically baytril and some ave used it with success JMO

[Guest strapper]

If we could get back to my question guys .

 

Which was ....Had anybody used this product to solve a disease problem?? and had the results been sucessfull??

 

peter what i read up was that its used usually on cats and dogs..but there are side effects...more to dogs than cats..but with cats there is info that says if used for a length of time it can cause temporary blindness or total.

so be careful dont use it for too long.

aint quite the answer you wanted but thought it might be of use to you

[Guest peter4pm]

cheers strapper ...was just wondering if it was infact the same as baytril or less effective..i noticed on their feedback on ebay that many peoplke  had purchased the product , so thought somone could shed a little light on its effectiveness for the likes of what it states in its details on the description that it can be used to treat and so on.

[Guest duncan mckay]

paul i bought it as a change mate  just in case

[Guest strapper]

paul i bought it as a change mate  just in case

 

if theres a serious infection it would come in very handy

[Guest duncan mckay]

thats correct mate have used baytrill but with all the hype went for something diffrent

[ch pied]

thats correct mate have used baytrill but with all the hype went for something diffrent

 

no diffrence with this stuff , there all member's of the flouraquiline group ( spelling ) 6 of 1 1/2 doz of other

[cemetary]

thats correct mate have used baytrill but with all the hype went for something diffrent

 

Eye in yer TEA,  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest duncan mckay]

in your pint ya dafty ;D

[Guest peter4pm]

ive ordered a bottle ..its a 10% liquid..be good to have around in emergencys

[Guest Owen]

In regard to the Belgium's use of Baytril. A lot of them use it in October each year for a minimum of ten days. The idea is, that they can eliminate Paratyphoid and other serious infections from their birds before the breeding starts. The birds have to recover for a month after the treatment to avoid breeding problems. Most British Vets would suggest that this treatment is followed by a vaccination. But as there are arguements about the benefits of the vaccinations the Belgiums seem to think that as long as they can get a clean start for their breeding and racing they will be fine. To be honest, I have always suported the idea of vaccinations, but I am having doubts about it these days. My problem is with the vaccine. If we are going to vaccinate it is essential that the vaccine is produced so that it is a mirror image of the disease we want to control.

I am not convinced that it is, these days. All the diseases that we are concerned with are likely to mutate and it must be tracked each and every year so that the variations are covered properly and accurately. I am reasonably sure that this is not being done. The consequences of getting it wrong will mean that instead of eliminating the disease, we will make matters worse, much worse. This is where the RPRA could step in with the latest scientific information and suport a vaccination programme. But unfortunately they are too busy giving money away to others. They remind me of the situation in Rome, when Nero fiddled as Rome burned.

David Bills has told me that he does not like Forums. Perhaps it is because of the pressures we can bring about on matters of this sort. What do you think?  

[Guest peter4pm]

good post owen

i have to say i will be vaccinating asap for the paratyphoid as im not going threw another summer like last year ...i know its not 100% proof but its got to be a help in some way surely.

whats your thoughst ?

[gulkie]

i'am a layman as far as medication is concerned, but i would never give an

antibiotic as a preventative i may be wrong .i went to the vet with a sick bird

and she put it on a course of baytril for 7 days to no avail i disposed of the

bird and cut open the crop and found a large tumer ,moral of the story vets

get it wrong to :'(   :(

 

[Guest Owen]

The problem for you in making your decision, whether or not to vaccinate, is the month recovery time you need to give your birds to get over the vaccination. After useing either Baytril or Amoxiciline you birds will be very suceptable to yeast infections. I have mentioned this because, if you don't know, you can ruin your racing season before you start.

After taking all this into account, if you can deal with the stuation, vaccination is always the best protection for your birds. And your own peace of mind for that matter.

A little tip that might help you, give your birds Aquatious Iodine in the water as a preventitive for yeast. About 5ml to the gallon will be fine. A lot of Vets like to prescribe Nystatin, a human based product, but the iodine will be better and cheaper. It is also known as Lugols Iodine. A lot of successful Fanciers use it in either in their tonic concoctions or as an additive to the drinking water on a weekly basis. See Dave Allen's Tonic for example!!