willo Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 hi all ive found the best stuff for keeping a team of birds in good health is ionic colloidal silver,but not just any old stuff put together it has to be made properly,not with tap water,but with 100% de-ionized water,and also not with silver wires,but with proper silver bullion bars of 1 troy oz each. if its made ok your team will florish,old birds keep going on it,but young birds they love it they seem to know it they don't get many problems and the one's that do,put some into their mouth a few times a day and their fine. some of the ailments it kills,salmonella,e-coli,y.b.sickness,adenovirus,ect. and its natural no chemicals,bugs can't build up a resistance to it,so you can give it always. hope this helps all. willo.
Guest bigda Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 willo, where you know on here 9 month ago, way magic tablets that the greyhound men used
willo Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Posted March 15, 2009 no bigda just started back up in sport,the only magic tablet i know of if you got pinched with it you'd get jail. regards. willo.
pjc Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 willo, whats your connection with this product or its suppliers?
doubled56 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 I've heard about this but no idea of effectiveness or where you get the raw materials from together with costs. doubled56
Guest bigda Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 think you spininig a yarn ;)willo a troy ounce about £100
thunderboult Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 hi guys/girls, i saw this mentioned earlier and wondered if any of you have used it and did you notice any thing(did birds remain healthy..etc) thanks .
Guest 67ghirl Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 Some info - Prior to 1938, colloidal silver was widely promoted as a "cure-all", and silver products were prescribed by physicians as topical antibiotics. However, with the development of more effective, less expensive antibiotics such as penicillin and sulfanilamide, medical use of colloidal silver ceased.From approximately 1990, there has been a resurgence of the promotion of colloidal silver as an alternative medicine treatment, marketed with claims that it can prevent or treat numerous diseases. In vitro evidence of an antimicrobial effect of colloidal silver is mixed; some studies have found it to lack any antibacterial effect, while others have reported an effect attributed to silver ions which coexist in the colloid. There is no evidence that any preparation of colloidal silver is effective in vivo. Electrolytically dissolved silver was added as a disinfectant to the drinking water supplies of Russian Mir space missions and the International Space Station. Currently, there are no evidence-based medical uses for colloidal silver. There are no clinical studies in humans demonstrating effectiveness, and several reports of toxicity.The U.S. National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine has issued an advisory indicating that the marketing claims made about colloidal silver are scientifically unsupported, and that the silver content of marketed supplements varies widely and can pose risks to the consumer. Argyria Excessive intake of silver products may result in a condition known as argyria, one symptom of which is blue or gray discoloration of the skin. The discoloration occurs when silver is deposited in the skin and then darkened by sunlight, just as silver particles in photographic film darken when exposed to sunlight. Localized argyria can occur as a result of topical use of silver-containing remedies, while generalized argyria results from the ingestion of colloidal silver. Argyria is usually permanent, and there is no known effective treatment.While argyria is usually benign and limited to skin discoloration, there are isolated reports of more serious neurologic, renal, or hepatic complications. A death has been reported in the medical literature as a result of colloidal silver use; in that case, a 71-year-old man developed status epilepticus which the authors felt was due to silver toxicity. A number of case reports describe argyria after ingestion of colloidal silver marketed as an alternative-medicine treatment.Colloidal silver may theoretically interact with some medications, including tetracycline and quinolone antibiotics and penicillamine, reducing the effectiveness of those
Guest Owen Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 I used it for a couple of years. I did not find it did what I was told it could do. It is another one of those stroies that Bilco has told so convincingly. During the time I used it I had YBS, canker and cocci. I don't know about salmonella because I vaccinate for that. As far as I am concerned, from experience not what someone else has told me, it is a load of old tosh. I have kept records so if anyone wants to find out more I can give them detailed info.
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 has anyone ever used super max immune as advertised in this weeks bhw
PigeonTracker Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 I've heard about this but no idea of effectiveness or where you get the raw materials from together with costs. doubled56 Not sure it works either but you can get a troy ounce of silver for under a tenner. http://silverprice.org/silver-price-per-ounce.html
joe61 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Why do you all try everything to keep your pigeons healthy.. if they are not healthy without supplements they are not good pigeons, and you are doing something wrong, we have never treated a pigeon for anything, we give our pigeons nothing and not treated flock wise in over 17 years !! if your pigeons need supplements to hold them up they are weak pigeons, food and water. get on with it. oh happy days
Guest Owen Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 jo61 you are probably right in what you say. The problem is that my pigeons do get canker, cocci and worms. And they have to be vaccinated for paramixo by law. In addition to that, I vaccinate for paratyphoid to protect them against the infected pigeons that are often in the race paniers. Put there by people who don't care to check these things. I know for sure that they get these problems because I check with my microscope reglarly. I also know that my pigeons do not win races if they have any of these problems. And it is a fact that there is no immunity to worms and they will do serious damage if left untreated. So I can't see how it would be possible to win with the pigeons I keep if I didn't treat for these problems when they show up. On the other hand, because I use the microscope, I do not have to treat blindly and I probably treat less than most of the fanciers I know.
nogin Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 jo61 you are probably right in what you say. The problem is that my pigeons do get canker, cocci and worms. And they have to be vaccinated for paramixo by law. In addition to that, I vaccinate for paratyphoid to protect them against the infected pigeons that are often in the race paniers. Put there by people who don't care to check these things. I know for sure that they get these problems because I check with my microscope reglarly. I also know that my pigeons do not win races if they have any of these problems. And it is a fact that there is no immunity to worms and they will do serious damage if left untreated. So I can't see how it would be possible to win with the pigeons I keep if I didn't treat for these problems when they show up. On the other hand, because I use the microscope, I do not have to treat blindly and I probably treat less than most of the fanciers I know. i've got to agree withyou owen 100%
Ian Gill Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Ever heard the saying "he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth" ?? Thats why the landed gentry's children survived while the poor folks kids died back in the day.
frank-123 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Ever heard the saying "he was ?? Thats why the landed gentry's children survived while the poor folks kids died back in the day. oh i thought that would mean born into wealth and get everything you need without having to work
Guest peter.j Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 what about the saying ,he talks like hes got a plum in his mouth lol i dread to think ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
greenlands Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 colloidal silver generator,anybody want one £10 plus postage.Lindsay
greenlands Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 colloidal silver generator,anybody want one £10 plus postage.Lindsay Can't be that good, no replies.
Guest kev d Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Why do you all try everything to keep your pigeons healthy.. if they are not healthy without supplements they are not good pigeons, and you are doing something wrong, we have never treated a pigeon for anything, we give our pigeons nothing and not treated flock wise in over 17 years !! if your pigeons need supplements to hold them up they are weak pigeons, food and water. get on with it. oh happy days hi joe61 , with this routine you have whats your racing record like with positions and returns , not being funny . just intrested , kev
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