Garlic Juice

[micko and jack]

i came on this from an american pigeon web site

i was just wondering about the dose ??

and i think i read in another thread this or last week

someone said NOT to be giving garlic when feeding young ??

 

Garlic Juice  

  Ready to use in water.  Helps purify the blood and    

  stimulate the functions of the whole body.  Very  

  important for the breeding and racing season.  During  

  breeding, once a week - 1 oz. per gallon of water.  

  During racing, use day before shipping - 2 oz. per gallon

  of water.  Also beneficial after periods of heavy  

  medication - use for 3 to 5 days, 1 oz. per gallon of  

  water.  

 

[THE FIFER]

wouldnt give day of basketing, garlic makes you thirsty,

[jimmy white]

wouldnt give day of basketing, garlic makes you thirsty,

 

yip, wouldnt add anything to the water b4 any race,

 

, but garlic some great qualities,, marvelous stuff ,, an old remedy for many, many  things,[the alicen in it], so old, even the egyptions used this,,,,, i know that,,,,cause my mummy told me ;D ;D ;D,,,seriously great stuff

[wilkins]

wouldnt give day of basketing, garlic makes you thirsty,

 

i used to think that but not so sure now going by the birds water in take

[Graham Kelly]

Not sure if garlic oil is the best way to give it - apparently allicin does not last long so garlic has to be given fresh. Any heat treatments to garlic is also supposed to suppress the allicin content.

 

I crush my garlic cloves with a garlic press bought in Ikea - it can then be added to water or across food.

[Guest IB]

Not sure if garlic oil is the best way to give it - apparently allicin does not last long so garlic has to be given fresh. Any heat treatments to garlic is also supposed to suppress the allicin content.

 

I crush my garlic cloves with a garlic press bought in Ikea - it can then be added to water or across food.

 

Always suspicious of garlic preparations, as you say heat destroys allicin, so if heat is used making the preparation, it may not be the best; plus allicin is very unstable and breaks down within hours into other substances [each beneficial] but allicin is the one you want.

 

I crush mine fresh into the drinker the evening they come home from the race. They are used to it and I've measured water in and out, and found that it doesn't stop them drinking, or make them drink more. What's left goes in the pail and into the bathwater a week later. It's also an insecticide, so keeps them clear of lice.

[kev43]

 

Always suspicious of garlic preparations, as you say heat destroys allicin, so if heat is used making the preparation, it may not be the best; plus allicin is very unstable and breaks down within hours into other substances [each beneficial] but allicin is the one you want.

 

I crush mine fresh into the drinker the evening they come home from the race. They are used to it and I've measured water in and out, and found that it doesn't stop them drinking, or make them drink more. What's left goes in the pail and into the bathwater a week later. It's also an insecticide, so keeps them clear of lice.

 

 

 

i use garlic granules used for horses and i soak mine in boiling water over night,,so are u sayin usin boilin water is no gd wud it b better saokin them in cold water over night ?

[wilkins]

just watched a dvd on wright brothers , there birds had loads of garlic left in the drinker to it goes soft and breaks up during winter ,, watched another dvd of phill higgs and he puts garlic in for a couple of hours and advised against leaving it in any longer,, both are top fliers

[Guest IB]

 

 

 

i use garlic granules used for horses and i soak mine in boiling water over night,,so are u sayin usin boilin water is no gd wud it b better saokin them in cold water over night ?

 

I'd say always use cold water. This short extract from a paper on garlic, explains why. I think it is already published in the main garlic 'sticky' thread:-

 

However, it seems that, whatever the basis for its use, fresh cloves are the superior source for the important ingredients of garlic. Other commercial preparations such as powders or oils may or may not be useful since the processing procedures may dilute or eliminate the effective compounds. If you have a choice then - and most of us do - buy cloves of garlic from your grocery store and prepare fresh solutions as you need them.

 

Given the "touchy" nature of the important, active compounds in garlic it seems likely that heating or boiling crushed cloves above 60° C (remember water boils at 100° C ) may be enough to cause a major loss of these key substances. On the basis of this information it is logical that home preparations of solutions of garlic should not be heated in order to retain the important compounds in the solution. Be aware that allicin is readily converted to a more volatile compound called diallyl disulphide—which means that its effects can be transient.

 

 

[Guest snookbri]

Has anyone ever tried "Natures Own" Garlic Pearls?  available from health food shops, chemists £2.99 for 90 i think

[kev43]

 

I'd say always use cold water. This short extract from a paper on garlic, explains why. I think it is already published in the main garlic 'sticky' thread:-

 

However, it seems that, whatever the basis for its use, fresh cloves are the superior source for the important ingredients of garlic. Other commercial preparations such as powders or oils may or may not be useful since the processing procedures may dilute or eliminate the effective compounds. If you have a choice then - and most of us do - buy cloves of garlic from your grocery store and prepare fresh solutions as you need them.

 

Given the "touchy" nature of the important, active compounds in garlic it seems likely that heating or boiling crushed cloves above 60° C (remember water boils at 100° C ) may be enough to cause a major loss of these key substances. On the basis of this information it is logical that home preparations of solutions of garlic should not be heated in order to retain the important compounds in the solution. Be aware that allicin is readily converted to a more volatile compound called diallyl disulphide—which means that its effects can be transient.

 

 

thx ib for that bit ov info will take on board  

[Tumley Lofts Stud]

We used to put garlic cloves in the water not crushed and leave them in there all the time, they used to start growing in the summer and we found that very good but now we use Garlic, Parsley and Linseed oil that's made for horses put some of this on the food how often you like and the birds look very well on it. Clean and easy to use as it has a pump dispenser.

[Guest Owen]

Parsley and kale are marvelous sources of natural vit "C". Vit "C" is often deficient in the diet and is dificult to feed because it is water soluable and heat sensitive. Garlic should be crushed and fed fresh. No heat, and do not leave in the drinkers for more that 24 hours.

[Guest bakes]

Parsley and kale are marvelous sources of natural vit "C". Vit "C" is often deficient in the diet and is dificult to feed because it is water soluable and heat sensitive. Garlic should be crushed and fed fresh. No heat, and do not leave in the drinkers for more that 24 hours.

 

i give my pigeons parsley they love the stuff i also crush garlic and ad to water fountains we leave it in for a day then back to plain clean water which gets changed twice a day fountain's taken out loft sterilized and an new water fountain's goes in

 

all the best.

[walterbmasson]

 

 

i also use the parsley linseed and garlic onto feed also from same store 100percent garlic powder not long before you see the down fall using the powder