TORNADOLOFTS Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 How Do You Test For A Yeast Infection On The Scope Thanks Allan
Guest bigda Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 you should be looking for a string like, snake shaped, rows of beads just like roserybeads the will show up a dark blueish colour mostly shows up in dampish lofts, if you black minerals are damp at any time at all, you will always have this prob, you can test two ways if you have yeast you will see it in the dropping straight off you can have a swab again dipped in solution then placed beetheen to sterile slides as thats the thing check the slides first that they don't have any thing on them and use throw away rubber cloves if you don't you will be there all day testing, for every thing if you see canker you will see it as a heart shaped mite with flagella type of legs four wee wispy hairs from them cocci described, there are two types of this fella, its more a clear color cluster and if the count is high you will notice them plentiful,the second type cocci can be seen as a shinny type cluster again the count is the thing here, as they have to have some. a good microscope will pick up a lot of action you might see eggs been laid by worms the whole world comes alive through a microscope but because you find these things in the slide don't mean nothing its sorting the loft from harboring them, as if you treat for them and the lofts still damp nothing changes 3 days later there back as the pigeons are walking on there scours, from the medications, so there you go its a lot of work but find the problem save the time surprised this post was not answered sooner but there you go then pigeon men :-/
Guest bigda Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 just go on the INTERNET and buy the slides you want to know about, they vary from £2-£5 per slide you will only want about 5 slides hexamsita, canker, worms, cocci, yeast, herpes, and maybe 3 of blood samples testing for ecolli salmonella, chlamydia, once you have them its just a case of studying them relay university's have list of them, a good microscope is able to scope at 400x 1000 you can get them to show on the computer they are good fun for the blind like myself and the are quite cheap £75
Guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 just go on the INTERNET and buy the slides you want to know about, they vary from £2-£5 per slide you will only want about 5 slides hexamsita, canker, worms, cocci, yeast, herpes, and maybe 3 of blood samples testing for ecolli salmonella, chlamydia, once you have them its just a case of studying them relay university's have list of them, a good microscope is able to scope at 400x 1000 you can get them to show on the computer they are good fun for the blind like myself and the are quite cheap £75 Poor Davey, my xmas list is growing by the day lol. thanks for all your help Bigda...............amanda
Guest anthony Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 Can anyone tell me how to mix the floating solution for the worms and cocci Thanks Anthony
johnny11 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 Alan The best way to know what yeast looks like is to grow it. Leave some bread out to go mouldy, then pick a tiny amount off the bread and mix it with saline on a slide and cover it with a cover slip and look at it. This will give you "the eye" for yeast when looking at your droppings. You have to be careful with pigeon droppings as any product high in yeast will yield a high yeast count but as someone has pointed out its the growing yeast that are the most important. Under a microscope growing yeast look like a tree without any leaves on it Hope this simple explanation helps John
ohiogsp Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 Can anyone tell me how to mix the floating solution for the worms and cocci Thanks Anthony OK. if you want to make a float solution you can easily do this with salt and water. Add 350 grams of salt to 1000ml of water, you want a specific gravity of 1.18-1.2. You can check this with a barometer. You want 2 grams of fecal sample and 10ml of the float solution. Put the fecal in a 10ml container and put a small amount of float in there. Then mix it together. Then add the rest of the solution fill until the solution is almost overfilling. You want this to make a convex on the top of the container. After you have this carfully drop a slip cover on the top of your bubble. Leave this there for 20 minutes. Pull the cover off and put it on a slide. Then check with your scope. Good luck
TORNADOLOFTS Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Posted December 12, 2008 thanks for all the info i herd about a stain test its ment to be best for yeast infections any one no how to do this cheers allan
TORNADOLOFTS Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Posted December 13, 2008 is this any good and is the boody & ridewood microscope any good Magnification: 20x - 1280x Robust metal housing and table with focusing knob Barlow 2x zoom lens for additional magnification and 5x and 16x wide angle oculars Revolving disk with 3 high quality lenses (4x/10x/40x) PC eyepiece with USB connection and ArcSoft PhotoImpression Software Set includes slides with specimens to investigate, microscope instruments and much more Supplied in robust and practical zipup bag
ohiogsp Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 You can use a stain to check for yeast (I have never done this) I think it is called a gram negative stain but would have to look it up. You can also do cultures to detect yeast. I use stains to do blood smears only. This will check for stuff like malaria, hemaproduce (sp), and basically anything that could be blood born. I only check my breeders cause if it is eliminated from the breeding loft it won't be in your yb's. The microscope you posted looks like the specs ae good. I have never heard of the brand but I am from the states. I would think for a nice scope with those specs it should be a minimum of $800 dollars. I don't have anything real nice just an older olympus scope with 4 objectives 4x, 10x, 40x, 100x, and a 10x eyepiece. So with the eyepiece my scope goes from 40-1000 power. It has an electic light and nice adjustable table. That is about all you need. I would like the computer atachment alot but don't have it.
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 You can use a stain to check for yeast (I have never done this) I think it is called a gram negative stain but would have to look it up. You can also do cultures to detect yeast. I use stains to do blood smears only. This will check for stuff like malaria, hemaproduce (sp), and basically anything that could be blood born. I only check my breeders cause if it is eliminated from the breeding loft it won't be in your yb's. The microscope you posted looks like the specs ae good. I have never heard of the brand but I am from the states. I would think for a nice scope with those specs it should be a minimum of $800 dollars. I don't have anything real nice just an older olympus scope with 4 objectives 4x, 10x, 40x, 100x, and a 10x eyepiece. So with the eyepiece my scope goes from 40-1000 power. It has an electic light and nice adjustable table. That is about all you need. I would like the computer atachment alot but don't have it. £39.99 (evil) I've got one
TORNADOLOFTS Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Posted December 13, 2008 £39.99 (evil) I've got one is it any good
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRESSER-BIOLUX-AL-20X-1280X-MICROSCOPE-USB-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ260326809834QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Equipment_ET?hash=item260326809834&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 there's one on e-bay but mine was only £39.99 at Lidl don't think they've had any in lately - but its around this time of year when they get them in
TORNADOLOFTS Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Posted December 13, 2008 yes they have them back instock and at 49.99
stevenf Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 theres one in the lidl catalogue now £89.99 goes into your pc to view
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20081215.p.Microscope_Set.ar10?OpenDocument&resetFilialDaten=1&id=677&zipcode=TS3%200LP&city=Middlesbrough&city2=Ormesby&street=Cargo%20Fleet%20Lane&ar=10&EMID=09500E30IU0RL8FFFB1BP01DC73A2 its a Bresser NG mines got a mechanical stage (kewl)
TORNADOLOFTS Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Posted December 13, 2008 http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20081215.p.Microscope_Set.ar10?OpenDocument&resetFilialDaten=1&id=677&zipcode=TS3%200LP&city=Middlesbrough&city2=Ormesby&street=Cargo%20Fleet%20Lane&ar=10&EMID=09500E30IU0RL8FFFB1BP01DC73A2 its a Bresser NG mines got a mechanical stage (kewl) is yours any good
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20081215.p.Microscope_Set.ar10?OpenDocument&resetFilialDaten=1&id=677&zipcode=TS3%200LP&city=Middlesbrough&city2=Ormesby&street=Cargo%20Fleet%20Lane&ar=10&EMID=09500E30IU0RL8FFFB1BP01DC73A2 its a Bresser NG mines got a mechanical stage (kewl) its the same - only with a mechanical stage I've never fixed it up to the computer - thats a job for early new year - to make room in the shed and fix it up in there its a strain on the eyes but otherwise good enough for the job
TORNADOLOFTS Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Posted December 13, 2008 its the same - only with a mechanical stage I've never fixed it up to the computer - thats a job for early new year - to make room in the shed and fix it up in there its a strain on the eyes but otherwise good enough for the job thanks
Gates Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 I've just got a microscope (early xmas present) but haven't a clue how to use it As far as looking for coxidoses worms canker etc dont't know what it looks like. Is there a website I could look at? Can anyone help?
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 try here - it tells you how to prepare samples http://www.finchaviary.com/Maintenance/FecalSmear.htm and shows some images coccidiosis towards the bottom of the page I think there are some links as well
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