GREEN DROPPINGS

[THEMAN]

Hello,

I have a question for everyone.  I have noticed some darkish green runny/normal droppings in the loft and was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what this could be.  I have had a two birds loose weight and after I separeated them they died.  I noticed the green droppings in the sick tank when they were still alive.  I treated them for canker (as I noticed the deposits in the mouth and throat)  I have subsequently treated the rest of the birds.  I am just wondering if maybe it could be something else and what should I do.  Any recomendations would be helpful and appreciated.  I tried to upload a few pics that I took but the forum would not even allow one picture to be uploaded.  Guess it was too big of a file. Thanks.

 

Tony

[stevebelbin]

It sounds like they have had a bad case of YB sickness, if their dying. I was reading on the net recently about the Adeon-virus as I suspected mine were getting it. Mine did the usual, the odd one or two wouldnt come in for food even though they should have been hungry, then there was a bit of corn in the box the next day. I put mine on a depurative mix straight away and added Adenosan to it, with probiotics in the water. They picked up by the next day and their appetite returned quickly, so I think I caught it B4 any secondary diseases kicked in. But according to what I read on it recently, if its allowed to get any worse they are susceptible to an Ecoli infection, which would have required a stronger treatment, such as Sulfa-trim.

 

It sounds like yours have gone past the point where they are treatable with Adenosan alone and may need to be treated for the Ecoli infection.

 

I have the Sulfa-trim to hand incase they show any further symtoms, but their droppings seemed to be pretty good the last two days.

 

Obviously the above, with regards yours is all guess work and a vet should really be sought out, so you can get the droppings tested quickly, so you can get the right treatment into them before they all start to drop of the perches.

 

YB sickness seems to be rife at the moment, what with all the stress of training, so I would be careful whos loft you walk in and out of, as its easily contracted this way.

[Guest]

I agree with Steve, a visit to the vet's is a must or maybe one of your clubmates has a microscope,who will be able to test the droppings for you.

 

This may sound overboard, but when young bird sickness is going the rounds I would put something at your loft door with bleach and water in so you can walk through it before entering your loft and clean anything that may be on your shoes.

 

[Guest]

hi there,best thing for young bird sickness is AMOXYCILLIN if you can get it from your vet.best brand is VETREMOX BY VETREPHARM,twice the strength of other makes.its a 5 day course in the water.ALL THE BEST BILLY

[THEMAN]

Hyacinth,  

what do you look for with the microscope and at what field strength?  I have a microscope however it does not have 100x oil immersion lense if that is what is required.  Also, what kind of slide is needing to be prepared smear, wet mount ect?  What am I looking for parasite or gram +/- bacteria?  Thanks.

 

Billymac,

What is the correct dosage of amoxycilln? You mentioned that vetrepharm has twice the strength, how many miligrams of amox per weight of bird. or how many miligrams per liter or gallon of water for broad treatment?  Thanks.

 

 

[Guest]

hi theman,on the tub of vetremox dosage guide states ;administer via drinking water at a rate of 20MG/FOR EVERY KILO OF BODY WEGHT.

i treat at one third of a teaspoon to a 4 pint drinker and had great success.  billy

[REDCHEQHEN]

I thought young bird sickness was a virus ? In which case antibiotics surely won't work ( I am a novice so can't make any suggestions sorry)

 

Have used amoxycillin in the past and looking at the label its 40g in 100g (40%)

and the dose was 5g to a litre. But if you don't know what you are treating for don't use it as you could make things worse.

 

Test droppings for cocci and worms first, you should be able to see the worm eggs and oocysts at 100x and 400x magnification

[Guest]

VETREMOX IS 100% NOT 40% AND THE DOSAGE IS AS STATED ON THE TUB!!!!! I WONT POST ANY MORE ON THE SUBJECT!!!!!IF YOU READ FRANK HARPERS BOOK ON YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS,YOU WILL FIND THAT THE DRUG HE FAVOURS FOR TREATMENT IS AMOXYCILLIN .FRANK HARPER BEING A RESPECTED VET AND AUTHOR ON PIGEON MATTERS.

[frank-123]

http://www.vpu.co.za/articles/colin_walker/use_of_acids/use_of_acids_1.htm

 

check this site out hope this might help

[Guest shadow]

have the droppings tested do not treat blind find out what you are dealing with

[THEMAN]

I know what you mean RED about the virus and antibiotic issue in humans.  However, I notice that vets do give antibiotics for viruses im not sure if its that the animal physiology is that much different in animals or that its given to help with a secondary bacterial infection due to the virus.  I will not treat blindly I wanted to know the dosing incase I need to treat with antibiotics as I am new and have not really had any sick birds until now so I have very little in medication regimens.  I will make a slide when I get off work to look for the eggs and oocytes.  Thanks for all the info everyone keep it coming.  

[johnny11]

The Man

 

get the droppings tested sounds to me to be Coccidiosis

[Guest speckled]

not bad for a Quote "Novice"  ;D ;D redcheqhen, ah Speck :-/