Something wrong with my bird

[aye ready]

doe's the bird do it no matter where he's in the loft i.e in his box on the floor etc

[Okitsme]

I took the bird to vet in Sheen, somewhere in Richmond. I am not sure of the name of the vet as it name after the vet. Hope that helps.

 

Yeah the bird does it all the time. Even when holding him he twists his neck. Definately look disorientated.

[Guest Freebird]

This is a really interesting thread and I hope you let us all know what the outcome is, as so many just fade away with no conclusions. Like everything in life it is better to look for the simplest things first as nine times out of ten it will be something simple especially as this bird has had no recent contact with new stock and no other birds are affected. Have you ever watched a dog with an irritation in his lug (ear) he looks disorientated and will shake his head around. I still think it is something irritating this bird about the head. Hope you find out soon. Bet the blood tests come back clear. Good luck. p.s. I would have thought with a username like OKITSME you would know what a lug is(bunny)(bunny)(bunny)

[Okitsme]

Lol, mind must have missed the meaning of the word lug!!  

[Guest Freebird]

Lol, mind must have missed the meaning of the word lug!!  

LOL

Try this one.

Upone a hull thur stood a coo

It's no' there noo

Why no'?

'Cause it shifted!

 

 

[Okitsme]

You lost me at LOL,  

[Guest Freebird]

You lost me at LOL,  

 

(bunny)(bunny)(bunny)

Up on a hill, there stood a cow

It's not there now

Why not

Because it has MOOved.(evil)

[Okitsme]

You know what if you put it in an accent you have actually understand it. Well done!!

[Guest Freebird]

You know what if you put it in an accent you have actually understand it. Well done!!

 

Noo yev loast me

(bunny)

Have fun.

[Okitsme]

;) ;)

[Okitsme]

Sorry to bang on about this and grasping at straws but... Less than a week before this cock started twisting his neck I weaned his youngsters. Paramyxo is contageous enough to have passed it on to them, yet the youngsters are fine. Does this lesson the chances of it being paramyxmo?

[Guest numpty01]

have you checked its ear ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Okitsme]

Not yet mate. Will do it tonight when I give him other medicine. Will let everyone know.

[Guest IB]

Sorry to bang on about this and grasping at straws but... Less than a week before this cock started twisting his neck I weaned his youngsters. Paramyxo is contageous enough to have passed it on to them, yet the youngsters are fine. Does this lesson the chances of it being paramyxmo?

 

If the parent birds were vaccinated against paramyxo, they pass the antibodies on to their young, the hen via the egg, and both during feeding. It's called passive immunity and protects the youngsters for the first few weeks of their life. That's why you are told not to vaccinate youngsters younger than 3 weeks (colombovac) and 5 weeks (nobilis) - passive immunity stops the vaccination taking effect.

 

Personally, I think you've nothing to worry about on the major disease front, (1) you'd expect the whole loft to go down, not just the one bird and (2) you'd expect more than one symptom. Members talk of the floor being awash with watery droppings when they have been hit by paramyxo - your droppings are normal. (3) You've seen a vet, if your flock was at risk, he'd be prescribing for all the birds, not just one. (4) Although the vet hasn't told you what your bird has, in a way he has also told you what it hasn't - I've found on a past visit knowing that I didn't have X, Y or Z set my own mind at rest. My fear at the time was Paratyphoid. Bit like yourself, one bird, one joint. He told me Paratyphoid doesn't infect one bird and one joint, it infects all the birds and invades their whole body. On tests, the bacteria recovered was an unknown coccus (round) while paratyphoid is caused by salmonella,  a bacillus (rod shaped). Well worth the money for peace of mind alone.

 

 

[Okitsme]

Hi Guys,

 

I phoned the vet this evening and my test for paramyxo was negative. It was a huge relief for me. The only thing I dont understand is that he only tested for paramyxo and so cant tell me what is wrong with my bird. He is sending me another 5 days worth of Baytril which he thinks will do the trick. Its like someone said ealier in the thread, its blind treating.

 

Thanks to everyone tho.

[milecrosslofts]

correct me if i am wrong but a vet told me years ago that if a bird twists its neck round its new castle desease. may be the vet was wrong but i would get that checked to .

[Okitsme]

correct me if i am wrong but a vet told me years ago that if a bird twists its neck round its new castle desease. may be the vet was wrong but i would get that checked to .

 

 

There are a few diseases that make them twist their heads.

[thomasd]

??????????

[weecunny]

lol c u only thinking of it cos u paid a weeks wages for it lol

[jimmy white]

Hi Guys,

 

I phoned the vet this evening and my test for paramyxo was negative. It was a huge relief for me. The only thing I dont understand is that he only tested for paramyxo and so cant tell me what is wrong with my bird. He is sending me another 5 days worth of Baytril which he thinks will do the trick. Its like someone said ealier in the thread, its blind treating.

 

Thanks to everyone tho.

 

certainly glad that the paramyxo is ruled out by the vet, but cannot understand why this vet didnt didnt check for paratyphoid or indeed make more checks, for any other underlying problem,, my thoughts are that most ordinary vets dont know enough about pigeons , in this case i would suggest a top specialist  avian vet ,

 

maybe just one thing worth mentioning, that a pigeon that has recovered from paramyxo, can be left with a permanent nerve damage and dis-figurement :-/

[Okitsme]

Hi Guys,

 

Pigeon is back to normal now which leads me to believe that it was actually just a bump on the neck that it suffered. Well relieved with the outcome. Want to say thanks to everyone for their help and advice. If I had killed the bird it would have been a waste of a pigeon. And a very good pigeon at that too.

[Guest strapper]

well i reckon its slept wrong and has a crick in its neck 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D

[Okitsme]

well i reckon its slept wrong and has a crick in its neck 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D

 

Maybe his missus made him sleep on the floor, lol

 

 

[Guest bigda]

;)may be she gave him, a cold shoulder, that's all  ;D

[Guest Owen]

Having read all these threads, there is one thing that you have not taken into account. Salmonella. This disease can come in a variety of forms. One of which looks just like paramyxo except that there is not the watery droppings. Regarding the accusation of treating blindly with Baytril. Baytril is the best treatment for Salmonella. The Vet would have known this, and took the safest route to cure the bird. That,in my opinion, was the best way to deal with a potentially lethal condition while you were waiting for the Lab to come to a conclusion. If it had have been paramyxo, antibiotics would not have touched it. I hope that it does not turn out to be Salmonella because it can be very hard to clear up. Especially because you can have carriers which can not be recognised.

I know a local Fancier that has a huge problem with Salmonella right now. He has bought in birds and the disease has come with them.

And I am sure that there will be a lot more problems of this type to come. Don't forget a lot of them will end up in the basket with yours. I have tried to protect my birds by useing a live vaccine. But even that is no garantee of total protection.