Help YB's dying!!!!!

[milkman60]

YBS  DIYING  FULL OF WATER WHY   :(

[fletch]

how many, how long have they been going down like that

[weecunny]

give them milk ti drink could have been poisoned

[Guest strapper]

YBS  DIYING  FULL OF WATER WHY   :(

 

 

they have youngbird sickness.....the crop fills with water because they cannot digest the food and hold it in the crop which then turns sour,...then it holds water.

turn one upside down and gently squeeze the crop...see if a milky liquid comes out maybe a thick white substance too.

cut down to depurative food (small seeds) and treat for youngbird sickness.

cider vinegar will only help to prevent but will not cure it.

nifurimycin...spelling? should be given or belgamco which can be purchased in the bhw under belgica de weerdt fulll page. advertisement.think its £18, 80 grms tub.

 

remove all grit and vitamins till cured.

after treatment give them multi vits for 3-4 days

in the meantime do not add or take away birds..also do not let them out at all!

 

 

have you noticed any being or trying to be sick?

the sickness isnt killing them, its a secondary infection like e coli.

hope this helps.

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

 

 

they have youngbird sickness.....the crop fills with water because they cannot digest the food and hold it in the crop which then turns sour,...then it holds water.

turn them upside down and gently squeeze the crop...see if a milky liquid comes out maybe a thick white substance too.

cut down to depurative food (small seeds) and treat for youngbird sickness.

cider vinegar will only help to prevent but will not cure it.

nifurimycin...spelling? should be given or belgamco which can be purchased in the bhw under belgica de weerdt fulll page. advertisement.think its £18, 80 grms tub.

 

Belg amco is £1.40 a sachet at coxydene farm feeds for a 5gram think it is

 

[Guest strapper]

 

Belg amco is £1.40 a sachet at coxydene farm feeds for a 5gram think it is

 

its always handy to have a tub of it around.

 

 

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

 

its always handy to have a tub of it around.

 

 

used it last year and the bird i gave it to are now flying well for me as yearlings so cant complain about the stuff

[Guest strapper]

i know a few that are using it, swear by it.

[flyingteessider]

This vet cured my ybs strate away when no one else could, good for advice and sends you treatment through the post and pay later sandhill vets 01845578710 good luck

[Taylorsloft]

try fennel tea from the supermarkets £1 for 20 tea bags   ;)

[Guest IB]

I've followed 'symptoms' for some years, but cannot recall a post of crop being full of water ... grain yes, (holding corn) and vomiting grain, never water.

 

Have you any more details e.g. colour, consistency, smell?  

 

Sorry I can't be of further help, agree with light diet and something acidic in water, or garlic, but would steer clear of milk, it's an ideal growth medium (e-coli etc).  

[Guest Owen]

Strapper has given you good advice. One slight worry is the idea of turning the birds upside down and allowing the filthy water to drain from them. If you do that you will run the risk of drowning them. If they gasp as you are doing it it will be curtains. If you want to get the water out you can do one of two things. Draw it out with a soft plastic tube fitted to a syringe. Draw it out gently. Or you can do something slightly more drastic. You can make an incision at the base of the crop and drain it that way. If you do this make sure you have something anticeptic to clean the wound up and you will need to close it with a stitch.

You may be better going to see a Vet because you will need some serious medication without delay.

[flyingteessider]

I notice you are a newbie When you say young birds dying full of water are your young birds old enough to be away from the parents can they feed for them selves

[weecunny]

another good point

 

[Tony C]

This is not a time for guesswork, you need to get a pigeon off to a vet asap. Having your problem diagnosed will hopefully give you a cure and just as important it’ll point you in the direction as to the probable cause.

[flyingteessider]

If youve payed alot of money for the birds or penies you need to no the cause  have a postmorten done on a dead bird find the cause and have a prevantion should it happen again your able to cure it     and advise others its a learning process

[mic]

there were some whispers that some members in the gateshead fed had the same symptoms,4 to be exact,could anyone confirm the fact,just so we know that its up here,cheers

[Guest]

Milkman,if you can't get/afford a vet , try and get one of the experienced flyers around to have a look at the birds. The only time I came across water in crop was with cocci many years ago, if they have cocci the flesh will have dropped off them especially around the keel, but it could be one of many things, cocci is normally secondary.

[Guest strapper]

heres some interesting reading on why i suggested water in the crop...adeno virus ybs..

have a look at this site its good

http://www.pigeonnetwork.com/vetdirectory/vetusa/DrDavidMarx/fluidcrop.cfm

[Guest strapper]

by the way....if you are given tablets for this ,make sure they are given asap rather then later...otherwise the bird will not digest the tablets hence treatment unsuccessful.

i had 2 old birds die on me last year(stock)because i was given tabs by the vet,after they had died, i read up on this it was stated that i should have injected treatment into the bird so it was treated within, a lesson learned

[hotrod]

YBS  DIYING  FULL OF WATER WHY   :(

i had a problem two years ago with mouldy peanuts, they got aspergullosis fumigatus(spelling) fungus in the organs , they just drank and drank there crops resembled a carrier bag full of water,its pnuemonia that actually kills them , ps there is no cure if thats what they have , but get them to a pigeon vet and get them checked  

 

 

[terry mccarthy]

put them on tromexin theres nothing better for ybs on the market its the nuts its does all the resp wet droppings septacemia samonella gastro everything u can think of put it in water with colostron on food

[weirbridge]

hi are the youngbirds acting drunk and disorientated heads that look like they are vibrating. and have you introduced any new youngsters in the last couple of weeks. the team of youngbirds i just had to kill were also filling with water just a day before they showed full signs of pmv