Vitamins!!! Not worth a jot!

[Guest IB]

surely most of the vitamins are destroyed via the cooking process , although i used to give my birds vegetable water , didnt do them anyharm  

 

That is my understanding too, boiling destroys vitamins.

 

Another one I've picked up on is paddy rice, noticed one of my favourite seed mixtures, Natural, contained it, but that it was white rice. The bit with most vitamins has been lost in the milling - brown rice is white rice with that vitamin-rich coat left on. I feed 3 tablespoons of brown rice daily [44 birds].

 

And as I said elsewhere, I do like to give fresh greens April - September time, lettuce, kale, spinach etc.  

[OLDYELLOW]

 

That is my understanding too, boiling destroys vitamins.

 

Another one I've picked up on is paddy rice, noticed one of my favourite seed mixtures, Natural, contained it, but that it was white rice. The bit with most vitamins has been lost in the milling - brown rice is white rice with that vitamin-rich coat left on. I feed 3 tablespoons of brown rice daily [44 birds].

 

And as I said elsewhere, I do like to give fresh greens April - September time, lettuce, kale, spinach etc.  

 

most greens rich in iron and have alot of water in them so can be juiced and the pulp can be mixed with the corn

[Guest IB]

just wondering if you have seen the big blocks of rock salt ,it is full of all types of natural vits ,it is black and grey in colour ,not your ordinary salt  the pigeons go mad for it .ATB  les.

 

 

I know some fanciers used this back when I was a teenager. Never sure even now what it is/ was.  Rock salt to me is something completely different - it's the stuff the gritters are spreading on frozen roads just now, and very corrosive, so obviously not that. Does it have a chemical name?

 

I know what a lick is, seen it in my pigeon store, a mixture of vitamins and minerals for horses.  

[Tony C]

Ex Pat, Steve Patrick swears that by using the water from freshly cooked FRESH vegetables, especially the greens, is more beneficial to our birds than any of these quack vitamins on the shelf today.  I am not talking about frozen veg  (that most  of the women use these days)  Just a thought!  EX-CLAMATION, Vic!

 

I recall reading Steve P writing about this and I'm pretty sure this was how he gave it to he's pigeons before he got he's hands on a juicer.

[les]

 

I know some fanciers used this back when I was a teenager. Never sure even now what it is/ was.  Rock salt to me is something completely different - it's the stuff the gritters are spreading on frozen roads just now, and very corrosive, so obviously not that. Does it have a chemical name?

 

I know what a lick is, seen it in my pigeon store, a mixture of vitamins and minerals for horses.  

dont know what the proper name is just i was put onto it 4 years ago and have used it ever since ,the pigeons go mad for it at first they croud around it like it was a giant peanut  ;D but after a couple of days they just take it every now and then ,but if you take it out for a week they go mad at it when you put it back ,so it must be full of things they need like they  get in the fields  from the soil

 

 

[Roland]

fresh greens , natural honey in water ,b12 cytacon , once a week will give them all the vits and mins  they cant get from their food ,also rock salt to pick at .

And charcoal. You see for instance a Ad saying about Black Minerals, then stating mostly Charcoal and it's properties. Likewise many more.

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

black minerals is mainly crushed charcoal ( wouldnt be supprised if nowt else in it ) very good if suspect birds may be poisoned same as clay pickstones

[Roland]

Also, if ever you see a bird pecking and missing the pea or whatever it is aiming at. Don't uderstand why, but will quickly pick up the charcoal bits and very soon inded  has no more problems.

[jimmy white]

surely most of the vitamins are destroyed via the cooking process , although i used to give my birds vegetable water , didnt do them anyharm  

 

yes, im sure this is true, one thing for certain the goodness in garlic [the alicin] is destryed by boiling   i would  suppose like many  vits, in many things,   most  destroyed in boiling [just off to get my raw carrot breakfast ;D ;D,, ham and eggs ;D]