Guest shadow Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 always reared and raced my young birds naturally never had Y/B sickness in my lofts
Guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 been told if i get it to not feed them for 48 hours milton in there water and just leave them well alone to rest they will soon come through it My friend, only a fool would tell you this, Damo please don't go down that road
Guest stb Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 answer- stress.surely stress only brings out somthing that is under lying anyway. going back 15 years before young bird sickness, birds would get stressed but didnt come down with things like they do nowadays. Going back 20 odd years a freind of mine in south of England whom i was visiting said to me that they were starting a fund to research into young bird sickness and i just looked at him as i hadnt a clue what he was on about. He said it had been rife for years in his fed with birds holding corn and being sick and massive losses. At the time i had never seen or heard of any birds up here with anything like it and most folk thot it was a joke when i mentioned it. Well about 5 years later it was all around here aswell and still is apparently. birds get flown and trained in same way so if its stress why did we not have it before ?? :-/
Guest strapper Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 feed a dupurative type mix..small seed like. this will enable the birds to possibly pass food through the crop(something they will eventually be unable to do with big corn)hence holding corn. this is one of the signs in oldbirds when they get (wrongly named)youngbirds sickness!..fact...similar to sour crop. personally i feel there are too many recipe,s for getting over ybs and this i feel is the downfall . this is why some have it for longer or shorter.
flyingteessider Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 does any body no any one who sends with ybs i dont name and shame that would do it
Guest strapper Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 does any body no any one who sends with ybs i dont name and shame that would do it thank god our club has responsible fanciers and we all let one another know when its about. the fancier does not send out of care for other members. touch wood i have so far avoided the sickness this year.
Guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 does any body no any one who sends with ybs i dont name and shame that would do it You would fill this forum with there names yoy can tell the ones who do it,one week they don't race because of YBS the following week there sending
edwards Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 i cant under stand why in this day and age people get the stupid poxy bactria infection why on gods earth can people not control a less than 200gm bird from getting sick if your with your birds day in day out and looking at everything they do in your time your with them how can you not tell if one is off colour in 90% of cases of young bird sickness it starts with one bird then a wipe out on 50% of cases young bird sickness is mis understood dreadfull and if you get expert help asap you will find in 90% of cases it never was adenco virus the problem started at home with us and the care of them if your an honest man or women of the sport and i want you to think about this how many people in you club do you know dont give the birds there full care but think they do i know a few men but they know no different because the likes of lads keeping all there secrets of simple things under there hats on keeping there birds healty i hate the likes of these men of the sport they couldn give a sh** if your birds were falling off the perch in front of you they would rather send you down a winding road than help.remember expert help is always best and if you cant get or afford this help antibiotics that fight bowel gut bactiria and proper diet when there down is you best choice and most important rehydrate the birds every day when there sick.
flyingteessider Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 you send your birds with ybs you wouldnt be sending the next week theyd drop like flys
edwards Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 you send your birds with ybs you wouldnt be sending the next week theyd drop like flysif any one sends birds sick they should be *expletive removed* shot or removed from there club asap.
Guest redwhiteblue Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 if any one sends birds sick they should be *expletive removed* shot or removed from there club asap. 100% m8
flyingteessider Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 i agree i had it i didnt even go down the club till the next season when you get that as far as im concerned its season over
edwards Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 i agree i had it i didnt even go down the club till the next season when you get that as far as im concerned its season overyour an very honest man fairplay mate .
aye ready Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 i agree i had it i didnt even go down the club till the next season when you get that as far as im concerned its season over got to disagree with you on that one.i had it last year and the youngsters went on to win 4 races from 6 after i cured them of ecoli i was 2nd and 3rd in one of the other two races
flyingteessider Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 no body nows enough about ybs thats why i pulled out you might cure but they could still carry
edwards Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 got to disagree with you on that one.i had it last year and the youngsters went on to win 4 races from 6 after i cured them of ecoli i was 2nd and 3rd in one of the other two racesecoli can be easy to cure with the right antibiotics and your birds were well over there sickness to get the positions they did.
edwards Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 no body nows enough about ybs thats why i pulled out you might cure but they could still carry100% fact 3 years a cured andenco virus bird can carry in his system.
aye ready Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 no body nows enough about ybs thats why i pulled out you might cure but they could still carry then if there still carrying then the statement "only pigeons that are 100% fit and healthy will win races"does not apply then
Guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 you send your birds with ybs you wouldnt be sending the next week theyd drop like flys AND,is this why flyers are lossing so many :-/
flyingteessider Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 makes you wonder people say they are loosing more and more birds how long does it hang around
aye ready Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 AND,is this why flyers are lossing so many :-/ correct and this is why i didn't compete in the first two races.i am not one of these "DESPERADOS" averages and the like mean nowt to me unless i'm still involved in the last race read the signature on my avatar "short time y/b's long time o/b's" it's been there since i joined the basics
edwards Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 AND,is this why flyers are lossing so many :-/ you have it in one my freind and not only that my good vet belives 90% of young bird losses is down to respitory infections which you cant see now by that i mean racing not sickness.
Guest redwhiteblue Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 got to disagree with you on that one.i had it last year and the youngsters went on to win 4 races from 6 after i cured them of ecoli i was 2nd and 3rd in one of the other two races aye ready got to agree there mate your birds really flew well last season and this year as yearlings and you were also man enough to come out and say you had young bird sickness this year and stopped racing for 2 weeks to make sure your birds were fit and healthy enough to go the 3rd week, more than what i can say for some members in our club/fed as i am sick of hearing people saying i have never had ybs but they blame everything ie the race point, the weather, up too early, up too late, they blame everything apart from theirselves!!!
edwards Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 then if there still carrying then the statement "only pigeons that are 100% fit and healthy will win races"does not apply thenno mate not at all the birds immune system will build its self and keep the virus at bay but he can certainly pass it on to young he breeds .
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