ryesway Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 how oftern do you canker your birds through the close season thanks rye
jimmy white Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 hi r/way,, i try to treat as little as poss,, in the winter especially,, i allways fear any treatment could effect the moult
ryesway Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Posted October 15, 2009 hi r/way,, i try to treat as little as poss,, in the winter especially,, i allways fear any treatment could effect the moult cheers jimmy i thought about every 6 wks would be ok , but just thought i would ask
jimmy white Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 cheers jimmy i thought about every 6 wks would be ok , but just thought i would ask theres allways many different opinions on pigeons, i suppose really , its mainly up to the owner,, but thats the beauty of pigeons, no-one is really ever right,, and really its only self opinions, and probably a case of trial and error,, ,, but the less errors the better
ryesway Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Posted October 15, 2009 theres allways many different opinions on pigeons, i suppose really , its mainly up to the owner,, but thats the beauty of pigeons, no-one is really ever right,, and really its only self opinions, and probably a case of trial and error,, ,, but the less errors the better wise words jimmy cheers for the info mate
paddymac Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 hi r/way,, i try to treat as little as poss,, in the winter especially,, i allways fear any treatment could effect the moult agree with Jimmy, better left till after the moult before treating.
blaz Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 i will treat my lot to a belga MAGIX tablet for canker in about 3 weeks. tablet one day vitamins in water 2 days. each to their own
Tony C Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 Like Jimmy says its all about opinions, the way I look at it is by treating this time of year your only papering over the cracks. Its my belief that most if not all pigeons carry canker to some degree and have an inbuilt mechanism to deal with it, those that cant I want to identify and remove from the team.
Shortcut Lofts Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 We only treat after the moult is complete. Pigeons dont need any additional stress as the moult is hard enough. We try to leave it 2 weeks prior to pairing if possible.
Guest strapper Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 another tip!...as with the moult never treat whilst its going on......also never treat whilst breeding...when all the eggs have been laid then treat...canker treatments can affect the chance of filling eggs.
Guest strapper Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 another tip!...as with the moult never treat whilst its going on......also never treat whilst breeding...when all the eggs have been laid then treat...canker treatments can affect the chance of filling eggs. should have added treating whilst in the moult can affect the feathering..this wouldnt nescessary apply to stock birds but to race/show birds. also going back to filling eggs ...i meant fertillity.
Guest puresoontjen Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 i dont treat in the moult or breeding time they souldnt have to be there no stress.
soontjen Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 i treat once every 3 weeks when racing when breeding when hens have been sitting 10 days +
ritchie1 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 never treat them in the winter they get there first canker before breeding and every three to 4 weeks racing season and thats it
Guest IB Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 I have never medicated for canker, I've swabbed only once during racing and levels were found to be background only. What I usually do during racing is a weak solution of cider vinegar (5ml to 2ltr of water) in drinking water coming home from the race, changed to crushed garlic in water same evening, through Sunday into Monday morning. That is 3 weekends out of 4; the 4th is probiotic, garlic is known to affect some probiotics, so I leave that week clear. The main use of cider vinegar in this way is really to dissolve honey in the drinking water. But being mildly acidic it should deal with trichs too; garlic has been shown to be effective against trichs in humans, but it is a brilliant 'catch-all' for anything the birds may have picked up during the race.
Guest paulrstokes Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 Never I will treat if I see any but never have.
marmite Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 agree with ib i never treat just cider vinegar and honey mixture had them tested 5 wks ago very slight pressence but given clean bill of health i do this all yr round and whether im just lucky i dont know but dont seem to have yb losses like others but then i dont clean ybs out i believe in natural immunity jmo
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