andrecrock Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hey all, Got a cock bird that sounds like me when i got a bad cold.He is very weecie and his breathing is realy deep and hard. Somebody told me its "head cold".Any idees please and treatment? Thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonworld Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hey all, Got a cock bird that sounds like me when i got a bad cold.He is very weecie and his breathing is realy deep and hard. Somebody told me its "head cold".Any idees please and treatment? Thanx TIEYLAN OR SPECTOLINKEN 10% 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 sounds like a case of respitory mate, ( doxy-t) if it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 It sounds to me as if your bird is really ill with repiritory problems. He will need antibiotics. Linctospectine would be the drug of choice. That will only be an emergency action. You have probably got a badly ventilated, overcrowded loft. The illness is telling you that you must sort the loft and the stock levels out. And, by the way, even if you do not realise it, you will have other birds with the illness. The real problem is that this time of the year you should have the birds in the best possible condition. In the long run the best medicine is oxygen. Fresh air and plenty of it. If you don't do anything else, fit a decent aviary to make sure they get plenty of fresh air. Make sure that the aviary floor is wire mesh so that they can not peck about in the mess on the floor or else you will have another hat full of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrecrock Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 It sounds to me as if your bird is really ill with repiritory problems. He will need antibiotics. Linctospectine would be the drug of choice. That will only be an emergency action. You have probably got a badly ventilated, overcrowded loft. The illness is telling you that you must sort the loft and the stock levels out. And, by the way, even if you do not realise it, you will have other birds with the illness. The real problem is that this time of the year you should have the birds in the best possible condition. In the long run the best medicine is oxygen. Fresh air and plenty of it. If you don't do anything else, fit a decent aviary to make sure they get plenty of fresh air. Make sure that the aviary floor is wire mesh so that they can not peck about in the mess on the floor or else you will have another hat full of problems. Thanx for advice will speek to vet in morning, to get treatment. And to answer owen ,i got 24 cocks in a singel 14 x 12 foot loft with a complete open front.I dont think the amount of oxygen is the problem,altough i agree that it is a respertory problem.The bird was lost in last race and when he returnerd 2weeks ago i qurinteend it for 5 days and placed him back in loft.Might have picked something up that i never spotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry mccarthy Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 give half of do do tablet ie chest eaze u can get them from the chemist it opens up his airways and cleans the mucas from his wind pipe then after 24 hours treat with doxy for 5 days and seperate from other birds in mean time get checked by vet if theres any decent ones near u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 give half of do do tablet ie chest eaze u can get them from the chemist it opens up his airways and cleans the mucas from his wind pipe then after 24 hours treat with doxy for 5 days and seperate from other birds in mean time get checked by vet if theres any decent ones near u Sorry but whats a Do Do tablet. ; ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry mccarthy Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 its a tablet u get from the chemist also called chest eaze there for opening up the airways theres nothing better on the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob09 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 couple drops of betamox it will cure him twice aday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorsloft Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 couple drops of betamox it will cure him twice aday sounds like an old video recorder betamax :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob09 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 sounds like an old video recorder betamax :) surprise you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I would still have a look at the ventilation. You are right the figures work out right but you need to make sure that the air is able to move through the loft in a way that takes the stale air out without having the birds sitting in a draught. From what you are saying, the sick bird could have brought it's problem with it. Sorry to say this, but, I doubt if I would allow it anywhere near the other birds. It is not worth the risk. The chances are, that if it has developed the bad habit of straying, it will continue in the same vein. This is one of those cases where you should consider getting rid of it. After all it could ruin your chances of winning some races next year. And, I certainly would not think of breeding from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW USA Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Owen, a bird that gets sick more then once is one to get rid of, any bird can contract an illness, champs and culls alike. A lost bird is often a better bird for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 NW USA I take your point. And yes, I have heard that some birds overcome their illnesses to win races. But I would be willing to bet they are few and far between. And yes again, there are birds who return to the loft after a long time away and win races. But again they are few and far between. Now you are sugesting that a bird that has won nothing, that has contracted a serious illness and has been a stray for a long time is going to come good. Sorry mate, you really are asking for everything. You must have more faith in these things than me. I find it hard enough to select from young cocks that have done the programme successfully without messing about with deadbeats like this one must be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrecrock Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 NW USA I take your point. And yes, I have heard that some birds overcome their illnesses to win races. But I would be willing to bet they are few and far between. And yes again, there are birds who return to the loft after a long time away and win races. But again they are few and far between. Now you are sugesting that a bird that has won nothing, that has contracted a serious illness and has been a stray for a long time is going to come good. Sorry mate, you really are asking for everything. You must have more faith in these things than me. I find it hard enough to select from young cocks that have done the programme successfully without messing about with deadbeats like this one must be. Hold on a min my friend."deadbeats"?Wat are you on about?The bird in questions full nest brother was 11D section in the y/b nationl from fourgers this year.The bird himself scored two 3rd and 1 second in club.I can understand why you struggle to select your birds,poor things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW USA Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 One problem is we don't know how well the bird flew the series. I'd agree with you if a bird got sick more then once. Quarintine again and give a chance to recover without meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOMER49 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hold on a min my friend."deadbeats"?Wat are you on about?The bird in questions full nest brother was 11D section in the y/b nationl from fourgers this year.The bird himself scored two 3rd and 1 second in club.I can understand why you struggle to select your birds,poor things. Hi Owen gave you an honest opinion You are to blame for 5 days quarantine is not near long enough it being away as long Mind and tell us how you get on with it Also Owen gave you the top product Linco If it was mine bye bye ;) ;) Cheers Homer 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrecrock Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I respect owen's opinion. But to call my bird a deadbeat,no thats wrong.For all i know he got tired,droped in another loft and was kept just to escape later.(fantacy world,,,maybe?) Again,thank you for all opinions. This was my second year in the sport,i am still learning just like everybody does to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickythetaff Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Any advice on where you can get Linco Spectin? Ricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Davy Fleming Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Murray and Mills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 andrecrock yes you are right. The ones that are not selected are removed from the team because I will only keep the ones that are able to do what I need them to do. In most cases my rejects would be good for some people but I want to raise the standard where and when I can. Turning back to your sick pigeon. I believe that the differance between those that go on to be successful and those that do not make it is often quite small. And birds that fall off the required standard must be removed because they will do you no good. When you say that a bird is a brother or sister of a star does not mean much. The rules of inheritance means that the same parents can produce poor specimens and outstanding specimens. Sometimes, birds with outstanding potential can not make it because of accidents of chance. A hawk strike, a chance slip of direction or anything really. But the outcome is the same the bird becomes a reject. At the end of the day, it will always be down to the Manager to make the decisions. And I have learned a long time ago that I have to decide on a standard and stick to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaway Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 u gotta b cruel 2 b kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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