Skull Lofts Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hi all Can one use the above dewormer during the moult? Please elaborate on your answer! Skull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper756 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Personally I would not use any medication during the moult, unless it is essential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Lofts Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Personally I would not use any medication during the moult, unless it is essential It is esential!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper756 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 It is esential!!! Then it sounds like you have no option m8, may cause some fret marks on flights :-/ but you will not know until you give it a go, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 heard moxidectin has no problems while birds are moulting having not tried it i dont know myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry mccarthy Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 heard moxidectin has no problems while birds are moulting having not tried it i dont know myself yes the best stuff out there no problems with using it in the moult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Lofts Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 yes the best stuff out there no problems with using it in the moult Ive used it twice already and it didnt work, the Moxidectin! Yesterday i used Mebendazole as i found worm eggs in the droppings and plenty tapeworms were covering the lofts floor. ;D ;D As these birds are youngsters of around 4months of age i would like to know if their moult would be efected by the Mebendazole? Skull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 heard moxidectin has no problems while birds are moulting having not tried it i dont know myself used moxi myself no probs what soever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Lofts Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 used moxi myself no probs what soever could you see worms that came out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IB Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Think you've posted on worms [tapeworms] a few times and seem to have a specific problem with them. In my opinion, you can't continue to medicate the pigeons, without tackling the source of the infection, in the long run you are bound to cause the birds damage. Tapeworm needs an intermediate host, if the host is eaten by the pigeon, that's how the infection spreads. Again in my opinion, the long term solution is to watch for whatever mollusc / insect the birds appear to be eating on a regular basis inside & outside the loft, and deal with those. And has been posted before, tapeworm needs a specific medication. Think you need to choose 'one for tapeworms' rather than 'one that does tapeworms too'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Lofts Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Think you've posted on worms [tapeworms] a few times and seem to have a specific problem with them. In my opinion, you can't continue to medicate the pigeons, without tackling the source of the infection, in the long run you are bound to cause the birds damage. Tapeworm needs an intermediate host, if the host is eaten by the pigeon, that's how the infection spreads. Again in my opinion, the long term solution is to watch for whatever mollusc / insect the birds appear to be eating on a regular basis inside & outside the loft, and deal with those. And has been posted before, tapeworm needs a specific medication. Think you need to choose 'one for tapeworms' rather than 'one that does tapeworms too'. Youre right, ive posted during our racing season about tapeworms that came out of my racers after i dewormed them with Mebendazole. I noticed eggs in my younbirds droppings and did the whole lot, old racers and 4month old youngsters, again with Mebendazole! The old racers were clean. In the youngsters loft the perches and floor was covered with Tapeworms! My stockbirds ive never treated for anything, no meds, no deworming, nothing. As the old racers were clean i think the problem lies by the stockbirds. They are the ones that infect the rest! Unfortunately they are stil rearing young so i will wait until the youngsters are weaned and then do them aswell. Maybe this would solve my problem? My original question hasnt been answered as to the effect the Mebendazole wil have on the flights of the youngsters which they are bussy casting? Thanks Skull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Mebendazole & Fenbendazole are known to cause feather abnormalities in developing feathers TAKEN FROM FIT TO WIN BY WIM PETERS ALSO SAYS Mebendazole & Fenbendazole ONLY TAKE SOME ACTION AGAINST TAPEWORM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Lofts Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Mebendazole & Fenbendazole are known to cause feather abnormalities in developing feathers TAKEN FROM FIT TO WIN BY WIM PETERS ALSO SAYS Mebendazole & Fenbendazole ONLY TAKE SOME ACTION AGAINST TAPEWORM Thanks Tony I can assure you that Mebendazole takes care of tapeworms! Ive never seen tapeworms in pigeons until this year when i treated them with Mebendazole. Skull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Thanks Tony I can assure you that Mebendazole takes care of tapeworms! Ive never seen tapeworms in pigeons until this year when i treated them with Mebendazole. Skull Think what he's saying is dont take it as red it'll get rid of tapeworm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Lofts Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Think what he's saying is dont take it as red it'll get rid of tapeworm 100% right Tony, thats what i am saying. Its out of my own experiance! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaway Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 ascapallia from chevita mate that,llclear tapeworms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IB Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Youre right, ive posted during our racing season about tapeworms that came out of my racers after i dewormed them with Mebendazole. I noticed eggs in my younbirds droppings and did the whole lot, old racers and 4month old youngsters, again with Mebendazole! The old racers were clean. In the youngsters loft the perches and floor was covered with Tapeworms! My stockbirds ive never treated for anything, no meds, no deworming, nothing. As the old racers were clean i think the problem lies by the stockbirds. They are the ones that infect the rest! Unfortunately they are stil rearing young so i will wait until the youngsters are weaned and then do them aswell. Maybe this would solve my problem? My original question hasnt been answered as to the effect the Mebendazole wil have on the flights of the youngsters which they are bussy casting? Thanks Skull Not sure that the problem comes from your stock birds. Don't think it possible that parents can infect youngsters with worms, and with tapeworm the egg has to be eaten by an insect or something like a snail before it can become infective (for the bird) and then only if the bird eats that insect or snail. Looks to me that your young birds have access to an area that has insects or snails infected with tapeworm eggs , and the birds are eating those snails or insects. You need to rid yourself of the intermediate hosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Not sure that the problem comes from your stock birds. Don't think it possible that parents can infect youngsters with worms, and with tapeworm the egg has to be eaten by an insect or something like a snail before it can become infective (for the bird) and then only if the bird eats that insect or snail. Looks to me that your young birds have access to an area that has insects or snails infected with tapeworm eggs , and the birds are eating those snails or insects. You need to rid yourself of the intermediate hosts. think ib right there must be a source of infection do you burn lolft out after treament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 just been on chevita gmbh website (worm infestation) this will give you a treatment to iradicate the problem it also explains infection hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Lofts Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 think ib right there must be a source of infection do you burn lolft out after treament Thaks The only insects that i can see around the loft are ANTS. Yes i do burn the loft! Skull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Thaks The only insects that i can see around the loft are ANTS. Yes i do burn the loft! Skull it tells you on that website that ants can carry tapeworm eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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