North road racer Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Hi guys, As its omin up to bredding season ive decided im going to get my birds droppings tested, the birds seem healthy enough but just want to make sure. How much does it costo have a et out, and do all vets deal with pigeons? Is there somewhere i could send the droppings to instead? if so where? Thanks.
Frazer Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Be good to get some replys on this one i want to get my droppings tested rather than going down the blind treating route mate was telling me about a guy called ian cameron who is pretty good anyone used him and got a contact number for him thanks frazer.
pearse1888 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 hi this site may help this guy tests droppings and is supposebly good and cheap .. http://www.garyspavinherbs.harrisonhullracingpigeons.co.uk/
pigeonpete Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Droppings test do not always pick everything up. I have learnt that from experience. Does not detect paratyphoid, As they dont secrete the bacteria all the time
Little Bird Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 you could try http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/163914_dropping&&swab_testing_kit.php
greenlands Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 hi this site may help this guy tests droppings and is supposebly good and cheap .. http://www.garyspavinherbs.harrisonhullracingpigeons.co.uk/ I'll vouch for this lad,he's good at his job,a good pigeon man,as you can see the prices shown on the web site are in my opinion cheap.Several fanciers from my area go down to Garys to get tests done and the local corn shop sells his herbal products. Lindsay C. not on commission.
OLDYELLOW Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Northern Hygene will send a kit out and a complete test costs £30 and there a Defra accredited vet and specalise in Avian health http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/az/face_content_frame_proc?p_ref=APP170&p_media=INTERNET&p_spec=SPEC948
Guest Owen Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Please be careful how you deal with droppings tests and the people who do them. Some of the people who provide this service are doing it to sell their produces, no doubt. I am in the fortunate position of being able to do my own. As a result of this experience, I realise that it is not good enough to test once now and again. An example is hair worm. It can be very difficult to get rid of and often it takes two and even three treatments to get shot of the little devils. On the other hand roudworm is easy to get rid of but will readily reinfect in a relitively short space of time. So I always advice those who come here for me to carry out tests to recheck the results of medication after a week or ten days. This especially important where cocci counts are high. Often it is stress that has caused the high counts and all the treatment in the World will not cure the problem. You need to know this sort of thing so that you will be able to deal with the underlying cause of the problem. And fix it once and for all. Why not consider learning how to use a microscope and do your own tests. It wll pay you back over and over.
OLDYELLOW Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Please be careful how you deal with droppings tests and the people who do them. Some of the people who provide this service are doing it to sell their produces, no doubt. I am in the fortunate position of being able to do my own. As a result of this experience, I realise that it is not good enough to test once now and again. An example is hair worm. It can be very difficult to get rid of and often it takes two and even three treatments to get shot of the little devils. On the other hand roudworm is easy to get rid of but will readily reinfect in a relitively short space of time. So I always advice those who come here for me to carry out tests to recheck the results of medication after a week or ten days. This especially important where cocci counts are high. Often it is stress that has caused the high counts and all the treatment in the World will not cure the problem. You need to know this sort of thing so that you will be able to deal with the underlying cause of the problem. And fix it once and for all. Why not consider learning how to use a microscope and do your own tests. It wll pay you back over and over. i accept what you say about checking the dropping yourself by using a microscope , however do you have the facilitys to grow these bacterias and parasites and see which medicine is most effective ? most presciption medicines given are spectrum specific and are given out because whatever ailment responded best to it , you can tell what it is by a microscope but you cant treat it as effectively as a vet with laboratry facilities
Guest bigbok Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 if your going to the get the droppings tested find a one that wil also do throat swabs worth the added expense
greenlands Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 if your going to the get the droppings tested find a one that wil also do throat swabs worth the added expense Spavin does the lot,handy if your local to him. Lindsay
Guest Owen Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 A microscope can be used to identify, cocci, canker, hexamita and worms. You can also identify repiratory disease by using stains and high magnification. When it comes to bacteria you can see that the levels of bacteria have increased but not which bacteria you are looking at. It would take cultures to do that. And it is just is not worth trying to do that because it would be beyond most of us. Most Vets use the sevices of Laboratories when they have the need to identify bacteria. I have found that the fact that I can routinely check the droppings and swabs is worth a great deal. It means that I do not need to medicate unless there is a need. I still find it neccessary to vaccinate for paramixovirus and paratyphoid. And I still have the occasional case of young bird sickness. Although it is only about one or two these days, and to be honest I eliminate the birds that come down with it. This is because, although I can get them over it, they never seem to be any good as racers afterwards.
OLDYELLOW Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 the Vet i use are Nigel Horrocks his company is northern hygene and its his laboratry and hes Defra accredited so all under one roof which speeds up the getting results back
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