ally mac Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 How important are amino acids to a doo and will they get all thats required from a good feeding? Al.
chichichi Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 we give amino acids, they get them on the food before the race.. this ensures no imbalences in anything before the race,, best of luck ant
ally mac Posted December 28, 2009 Author Report Posted December 28, 2009 we give amino acids, they get them on the food before the race.. this ensures no imbalences in anything before the race,, best of luck ant Thanks ant, I take it they are bought as a suppliment? Al.
chichichi Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 here is a link to the ones we use.. added to the corn,, 2 teaspoons on 1kg of food.. http://www.schroederpigeons.be/index.php?page=products best of luck ant
Wiley Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 amino acids are very important in every athlete, especially after exercise, they are the building blocks for muscle repair, as with exercise your muscles fibres tear, and when rebuilt by the amino acid(proteins) they become bigger and stronger
Guest stb- Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 amino acids are esscential for good feather growth as well Ally
sammy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 amino acids are esscential for good feather growth as well Ally THAT WHY YOU TAKE THEM RAB FOR YIR HAIR ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest stb- Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 THAT WHY YOU TAKE THEM RAB FOR YIR HAIR ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dmust of had plenty of them nae shortage o hair hear Sammy :P
DOVEScot Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 How important are amino acids to a doo and will they get all thats required from a good feeding? Al. Amino acids are the chemical substances that make up protein in muscle, it you train then you need to replace these but you can overdose and cause health problems if you feed to much protein, I am sure this would apply to pigeons and most other animals :-/
Guest IB Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 How important are amino acids to a doo and will they get all thats required from a good feeding? Al. Amino Acids are the building blocks which make proteins. There are 22, each combination of 4? makes a different type of protein. The reverse is also true, when body digests protein, it breaks it down to amino acids. Amino Acids are considered two groups, 10 essential, 12 nonessential. The body can make 12 of these 22, the other 10 must be supplied in food. The 10 Essential Amino Acids are:- Arginine , Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan, Valine. I wouldn't worry too much about them Ally, the last time questions on them cropped up on the forum, I checked Feed to Win Part2, pp96/97 and found all 10 are contained in all the grains we normally feed our doos, including peas, barley, oats, maize, peanuts, rice, dari, wheat, sunflower. No much chance of them not getting all they need. Craig Speight posted an article by Gordon Chalmers which covers them:- http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1191783641/s-0/highlight-amino+acid/#num0
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 Amino Acids are the building blocks which make proteins. There are 22, each combination of 4? makes a different type of protein. The reverse is also true, when body digests protein, it breaks it down to amino acids. Amino Acids are considered two groups, 10 essential, 12 nonessential. The body can make 12 of these 22, the other 10 must be supplied in food. The 10 Essential Amino Acids are:- Arginine , Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan, Valine. I wouldn't worry too much about them Ally, the last time questions on them cropped up on the forum, I checked Feed to Win Part2, pp96/97 and found all 10 are contained in all the grains we normally feed our doos, including peas, barley, oats, maize, peanuts, rice, dari, wheat, sunflower. No much chance of them not getting all they need. Craig Speight posted an article by Gordon Chalmers which covers them:- http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1191783641/s-0/highlight-amino+acid/#num0 Good post IB..
ally mac Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Posted December 29, 2009 Thanks for the replies folks Al.
frank-123 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 that doo is a craker in you avatar you must have loft full of them ally
ally mac Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Posted December 29, 2009 that doo is a craker in you avatar you must have loft full of them ally Thanks Frank, he is a cracker, always been a bit of a favourite, bred for me by malky Brown in Arrochar. Looked the part since the day I collected him at 4 or 5 week old.
Guest IB Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Got a shock reading about salmonella, a bacteria, a fairly simple organism you would think, yet just one of its proteins is composed of 300 amino acids!! Thought I was reading that wrong, so cross-checked with Wiki: gobsmacked, a single protein (muscle) has 27,000 amino acids. Sorry if I misled some in my earlier post into thinking proteins were fairly simple things, composed of just a few amino acids. Clearly, they're not.
frank-123 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Thanks Frank, he is a cracker, always been a bit of a favourite, bred for me by malky Brown in Arrochar. Looked the part since the day I collected him at 4 or 5 week old. still got some nice birds left from the ones i got from malky they were cracking birds he bred for me a gentleman is mr brown they were racing well took a few tickets in my club with them until wetherby :'( but still hoping for some luck with the ones i have left this year
ally mac Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Posted December 30, 2009 still got some nice birds left from the ones i got from malky they were cracking birds he bred for me a gentleman is mr brown they were racing well took a few tickets in my club with them until wetherby :'( but still hoping for some luck with the ones i have left this year Aye hes a great lad Frank, hope they do well for you this year, keep me posted and I will pass it on to Malky. Al.
wilkins Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 is sedochol not a amino acid complex
djdave Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 amino acids are what build the body,, they make the cells metabolise into new cells, in humans the body makes them from the diet and are essential. amino acids include protein fibre and carbs
DOVEScot Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 There is no simple answer to amino acids; Phenylketonuria (PKU) is a disorder that causes a build up of the amino acid phenylalanine, which is an essential amino acid that cannot be synthesized in the body but is present in food. Excess phenylalanine is normally converted to tyrosine, another amino acid, and eliminated from the body. Without the enzyme that converts it to tyrosine, phenylalanine builds up in the blood and is toxic to the brain, causing intellectual disability. :-/
djdave Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 bet you wish you never asked now he he
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