what are your birds droppings like?

[Roland]

I think the climate one allows into the loft decides a lot too regards droppings. My loft is well vented and has a breeze blowing through it, and overhead every time it blows just a mite even.

This draws constantly from the front etc. and goes, after hitting the back of the loft, out through the top centre. Call ‘Air circulating’ which is all-important. Not in front bottom and up and out the top at the back!

Also as it is open to the elements. Open to the cool, damp air outside / INSIDE! I expect only firm nut brown after the teatime feed. Yes if I closed of the wire fronts etc. and stopped the blowing through / overhead I would have those dropping nigh all the time.... But I wish to put a little 'hardness' and 'Nature' into them. This I feel augurs better in the 'Mid to Later' stages of the race season. When warmer weather, drier climate, sunny and what not come to the fore. Time then to prepare and condition and watch the droppings etc. Which is deffinately no substitute for watching them parade and scoot about on the roof tops... or not as it may be!

If I was, or could be interested, or even bothered to get up and clock in the sprints races etc. then yes I might have a concealed and warmer loft. But the birds are in ‘Off Season’ and though most have been paired and then separated again ready for the breeding to start, I’m not ready to put them together now. They will have a fortnight to fly of ‘Inner Fat’ etc. before being put back together.

Feathers are still silky smooth etc. Beaks white and eyes bright. Wattle crisp white. Fresh down feathers most days. Alert and yet calm, Hands soon white with bloom when handled, so I know my birds are in great condition. Further I know in May when I start putting them on the road they will be, lean, mean, and ready to fly; for it won't take much to get them into race condition. Further, they will be fresh and ready for the harder, and longer races. Yes if they are good enough they will have every chance to excel etc.

As of now, well, change of diets, weather, merit the droppings. As for me, I could not give a fickled rats bottom if the droppings are green with white on top. Nor could carel ess about the odd white clear droppings either for that matter. Or even the slimey thick stuff once in a while I'll be seeing! I know when needed, and I’m interested, they will be at hand to do the task asking... if they are good enough!

[just ask me]

have split the thread keep to topic please

[carl]

great droppings but lack a few down feathers in my opinion,,,,,we are sad looking at picture of bird poo,,,great topic enjoyed it,,

[leighton1984]

Many very good flyer's control the environment in the loft all year round i do not think you can make birds hard in a damp and drafty loft as they do not rest and they get fatty in the wrong environment.

when i have been in top lofts  there birds do not get fat as they only eat what they need to as they have a level living conditions not cold and damp but with lots of fresh air but not blown in.

i think the loft is the key.

 

  Steven van Breemen

  Van lint

  Frank Tasker

  and many more control the loft if you have had very cold wet loft the dropping go green and wet the humidity is very high and that is very bad for a pigeon loft you over feed or under feed the birds and the birds hold 2 much winter down.

 

you will not see many big winner post on this thread as they are controlling the environment 2

and they want to stay at the top.

and after i paired my birds up the dropping did not go wet or green as my birds did not get stressed as the loft is controlled.

    

[Guest Paulo]

the same as yours mate they are on a four seasons mix

[Guest joshdonlan]

Does pairing up affect the droppings? Mine were looking good until i started pairing on Friday. This morning ive noticed a few loose droppings?

[Guest Paulo]

Does pairing up affect the droppings? Mine were looking good until i started pairing on Friday. This morning ive noticed a few loose droppings?

 

Nothing to worry about just stresses them a bit the excitement especially the yearlings

[Guest joshdonlan]

Cheers mate  

[Roland]

Well that is the scenario Lieghton and you well dispict it.

However you have complete miss the understanding of 'Hardiness etc.

Take athletes, they train in all weathere. and it is in the bad so called weathers where they train outside and hone their bodies. They do much, and face many adverse conditions in order to come into form when the sun is out. Incidently their' results are normally variable in terms of times etc. in regards the conditions. they don't wait for 'Better, more suitable days - likewise most sports. Morning or night.

Now to get up in a warm inviroment and go straight out use to be the norm in the forces and us at school is now taboo!. We, they, for now the tendacy is to feel that going strainght out into a cold, damp or wet invioroment is a sin. Must let the body adjust before taking in culps of air.

However, after a cup of coa co or whatever and a little padding, a climatising first they are fine, and of one goes. Indeed many are the 'Stars' that have not been able to train in the winter months, that can't achieve a peak conditrion. Some sports granted have their members move over seas in winter granted. Most stay put, well those that need to build up a hardy, and tough mind sett etc. NATUREAL birds have their mind set program throughout the year ALL weathers. This is why they tend to dominate the harder and longer races.... Just look at the National results! Say 705 of these harder and distance races are won on the natureal, - indeed more sprints etc. now than ever before. And 70% of the natureal winners are Hens!

Likewise when one lets their' birds out. Mine go out 365 days a year - till this season as I have more stock birds which I've seldom ever had. Like all birds used to beore the P.O.B area's of course.

These names that supposedly let us believe what you sate is also a fallacy. I've been to many of their lofts, including a name you mentioned.

That is why I wonder if you have. Seen many cover over the open front with Plastic sheeting for instance. That stops the rain etc. from going in and a little draught.... something to be avoided all season.

But I tend to feel this is a mite of topic and these last two posts or so may well be moved to another new topic.

[leighton1984]

Well that is the scenario Lieghton and you well dispict it.

However you have complete miss the understanding of 'Hardiness etc.

Take athletes, they train in all weathere. and it is in the bad so called weathers where they train outside and hone their bodies. They do much, and face many adverse conditions in order to come into form when the sun is out. Incidently their' results are normally variable in terms of times etc. in regards the conditions. they don't wait for 'Better, more suitable days - likewise most sports. Morning or night.

Now to get up in a warm inviroment and go straight out use to be the norm in the forces and us at school is now taboo!. We, they, for now the tendacy is to feel that going strainght out into a cold, damp or wet invioroment is a sin. Must let the body adjust before taking in culps of air.

However, after a cup of coa co or whatever and a little padding, a climatising first they are fine, and of one goes. Indeed many are the 'Stars' that have not been able to train in the winter months, that can't achieve a peak conditrion. Some sports granted have their members move over seas in winter granted. Most stay put, well those that need to build up a hardy, and tough mind sett etc. NATUREAL birds have their mind set program throughout the year ALL weathers. This is why they tend to dominate the harder and longer races.... Just look at the National results! Say 705 of these harder and distance races are won on the natureal, - indeed more sprints etc. now than ever before. And 70% of the natureal winners are Hens!

Likewise when one lets their' birds out. Mine go out 365 days a year - till this season as I have more stock birds which I've seldom ever had. Like all birds used to beore the P.O.B area's of course.

These names that supposedly let us believe what you sate is also a fallacy. I've been to many of their lofts, including a name you mentioned.

That is why I wonder if you have. Seen many cover over the open front with Plastic sheeting for instance. That stops the rain etc. from going in and a little draught.... something to be avoided all season.

But I tend to feel this is a mite of topic and these last two posts or so may well be moved to another new topic.

 

very good post Roland but as you say Hardiness they can get that from been in the aviary all day then back in to the controlled environment.

Athletes live in nice warm houses after they have been training and take on food and water then rest they open a window if its 2 hot or turn the heating up if its cold they can not rest if the humidity is very high they get stressed then the drop in condition if you can see what i am getting at.

they is no plastic sheeting in the fronts of my lofts just very fine netting lots of air and sun.

 

    

 

[Roland]

Some sense again leighton. But you know it is the going out of one inviroment to another where the hassle starts.

especially to a detrimental one. When a pigeon - most birds- puff up their feathers they create awell ventilated warm body. These is nature and does no harm at all of course. When pigens are let out, and fit and 90% in condition they swoop out nigh knocking you over.

Now I for one wouldn't want mind in that condition yet till the last weel in may, first week in June. Yet whether inside or outside the airflow and climate is taken in their stride. No downing of an adverse weather / condition change.

Fit men train to get  fitter, and all creatures have a dormant, replenishing period. A safty vave if you like to stop stress.

Now my birds droppings this morning were firm round balls of green with a splash of crisp white on top. Afternoon after cleaning out and a little chat lol, they are fed. Go back to sprinkle a little hemp or maize in and their droppings are brown... well till walked on lol.

Now I have downing feathers dropping regularly. Eys bright, and alert. They  hit the floor as soon as they hear me come out the house. They watch me close and strut to me Beaks are mostly whie and the sheen on necks are that beatiful glowing of shiney colour. Would one say my birds are not healthy and in good nick because I don't get nut brown ball as droppings?

[Roland]

Does pairing up affect the droppings? Mine were looking good until i started pairing on Friday. This morning ive noticed a few loose droppings?

 

Of course. every action has a reaction, as simple as that.