pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Had a disaster of a toss last night, Most probably a bop attack?? 3rd time at 18 miles, beat me home first 2, last night got back was about 10 there, others came quickly behind in 1s and 2s from all directions, vounted up was 4 missing out of 24, 2 of mine 2 of my sons, about 30 mins later my grizzle turned up, chest wound, cant tell if its wires or shot, just know he went for a drink, and it all drained out of him!!! gutted (yet again) was nearly dark now, 2 more (of my sons) arived together, very very jumpy, But i was still my 2008 cheq cock missing!! never been late before, flown messac last year, and was 1 of my candidates for tarbes this year!!!! .Anyway, is there anything i can do for this bird with split crop? Wouldnt know how to stitch if i cud?? how long will it take to heal naturally?? Hope i can save him? Any advise appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stantheman Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 pete unless its really bad it will heal itself and very quickly best thing to do is lock it in a box with food and water at hand all time and if you have any purple spray or wound powder use either of these on the cut you can get the spray and wound powder at any good equestrian outlet all best stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 pete unless its really bad it will heal itself and very quickly best thing to do is lock it in a box with food and water at hand all time and if you have any purple spray or wound powder use either of these on the cut you can get the spray and wound powder at any good equestrian outlet all best stan cheers stan, wont more water running through it make it not heal? did you get my pm yesterday mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I STITCH MINE WITH PLAIN THREAD IT TAKE S ABOUT A WEEEK. I CLEANED MINE FIRST WITH A COTTON BUD WITH A DAB OF IODNE..,BEST OF LUCK.////////THE THREAD WILL ROT,/// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 glue holes together using super glue if a crop wound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 glue holes together using super glue if a crop wound Please explain? wont that affect the bird attall? like glueing the crop to other organs mate? Or getting in system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stantheman Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 pete i have glued and sewn them in past but if you dont know how to do it go down the route i said as i am sure it will be ok yes i got your message morning would be best for me say 10 am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Please explain? wont that affect the bird attall? like glueing the crop to other organs mate? Or getting in system? if you have a crop wound ensure crop is empty and dry , you may need to trim a few feathers around the wound apply super glue to the edge of the slash and hold slash together just make sure you dont glue yourself to the bird , this will ensure the bird can drink in a few hours time watch for leaks if any leaks apply more glue the glue will heal the flesh , hospitals use this prodedure for head wounds , feeding or drinking whilst have a wound where leaks is not good for the bird you need to get it sealed so can eat and drink properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 pete i have glued and sewn them in past but if you dont know how to do it go down the route i said as i am sure it will be ok yes i got your message morning would be best for me say 10 am Cheers mate, what about eating? will that not keep splitting it open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun tim Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 NO IT WILL BE FINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stantheman Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 pete without seeing it its hard to say mate but only give it small seeds that are easy for it to digest, pigeons are remarkably resilant creatures and overcome really horrific injuries bring it with you saturday and i will have a look at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joshdonlan Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 use the superglue mate, just glue the skin together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mick bowler Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Either glue or stitch it but if their a bit missing get some cling film, either wrap around if you can or super glue it oversized over the hole (pluck feathers around it first). will drop off on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpau Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate get some one to help stich it mate. If the mrs has a strong stomach. It'll be fine very soon I'm sure. Best o'luck and don't panick you'll do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 use the superglue mate, just glue the skin together fetch you superglue round with you tonight then please mr vet :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 conamination is the biggest risk yes birds are tough and resiliant but if wound gets infected the skin could go black and fall off the sooner its glued the sooner the bird will recover , you wouldn't leave anything suffereing for another two days pissing water and corn through holes !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joshdonlan Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 didnt know i was coming round tonight :-/ ;D use the glue was apparantly it used to be used in the army. I have glued birds and dogs with it in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate get some one to help stich it mate. If the mrs has a strong stomach. It'll be fine very soon I'm sure. Best o'luck and don't panick you'll do it. The mrs!!! she nearly jubbed when i told her about the water leaking out of it last night!! Cheers for all the positive replies, There is hope then, thought it was going to be another 1 bites the dust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stantheman Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 thats why i advocated the use of wound powder or purple spray to stop infection, why criticise advice given ? i note you did not mention any way of cleaning the wound before gluing but i didnt jump down your throat did i? i based my advice on previous similar injuries and can say it worked for me in future i will give all advice by pms as i am not going to be criticised for trying to help people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev43 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 The mrs!!! she nearly jubbed when i told her about the water leaking out of it last night!! Cheers for all the positive replies, There is hope then, thought it was going to be another 1 bites the dust! stop bein so soft wuss get a needle and thread and get it stitched the thread will rot away i did 1 last year a youngbird was split from AR..HOLE to breakfast time and he heald no bother he was my 1st bird bk sunday so does no lastin damage m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 stop bein so soft wuss get a needle and thread and get it stitched the thread will rot away i did 1 last year a youngbird was split from AR..HOLE to breakfast time and he heald no bother he was my 1st bird bk sunday so does no lastin damage m8 ;D not a wuss, just didnt want to stitch its neck up to its toes, if you get what i mean, Didnt want to distress the bird anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpau Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate I couldn't get my Mrs to hold the bird while I stiched. I was most worried you'd kneck it to put it out of its misery. That would be the waste of a perfectly good bird and he'll still be good for Tarbes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonpete Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate I couldn't get my Mrs to hold the bird while I stiched. I was most worried you'd kneck it to put it out of its misery. That would be the waste of a perfectly good bird and he'll still be good for Tarbes. It is not my tarbes candidate mate, he is never made it home last night :'( So im fearing he was "the one". But i will give this bird a fair chance, if they make it home under there own steam i always give them a chance. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 thats why i advocated the use of wound powder or purple spray to stop infection, why criticise advice given ? i note you did not mention any way of cleaning the wound before gluing but i didnt jump down your throat did i? i based my advice on previous similar injuries and can say it worked for me in future i will give all advice by pms as i am not going to be criticised for trying to help people i didnt need to repeat cleaning of the wound as already been said my choice would be iodine but wound powder just as good also smearing of a bit of sudocream ( healing cream ) after the glue is dry to help form a barrier against infection also speeds the healing process up , i never jumped down your throat , but if you wish to take unbridge thats entirely up to you , my comments were honest leaving a wound open only increases the chance of infection and the skin tisues from dying so immediate treatment is needed , your choice to give information too others via pm is quite within your rights i actualy do the same from time to time , i never made any offensive comments dirrectly to you and i sincerly appologise if you have taken them the wrong way as no offense or upset was intended and i didnt feel the need to 'jump down your throat' in anyway Regards Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stantheman Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 ok Mark maybe i overreacted so lets agree to let it be and move on all roads lead to rome and we all have different views all best stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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