Protein

[Hogni]

Much has been said about protein in pigeon feed and how much it should be and that it must be controlled, but in your opinions what is the ideal amount in % in lets say a breeding mixture, a flying mixture and a young bird mixture?

[Pego]

Racing mixtures around 13-14%

[dkj]

Racing mixtures around 13-14%

   bang on

 

 

[jimmy white]

in my opinion , not such an easy question to answer in a short post,, basicly agree with above 14pc  racing in general, but i would vary the amount due to many circumstances i,e the type of racing etc ,,sometimes  a breeding mixture can be confused with a rearing mixture , where in my opinion, plenty of protein is needed,,, as in a breeding mix [mating up], sitting,,,  less protein ,, yb,s flying over 6 weeks less protein,, b4 this plenty, birds moulting need more protein , after moult less protein etc etc ,, so, really no easy answer  

[Guest strapper]

i race on a high protein mix,adding beans when the distance gets around 200mls, mine get loads of peanuts.

i find my birds prefer this mix .

[wilkins]

barley as a base for me, with protein added during breeding and heavy road training (enforced) to get them to fly at home low protein

[Guest Freebird]

barley as a base for me, with protein added during breeding and heavy road training (enforced) to get them to fly at home low protein

So for flying at home what would be your mix, thanks.

 

 

[wilkins]

2 parts barley/ 1 wheat/1 general mix/ half pellets/quarter rape seed

 

a little light feed in the morning then out after half hour, then full feed a night all they want

 

once they race add a gerry plus from wednesday afternoon to friday morning,

[leighton1984]

check what the top flyers are using.

right feed at right time of the week.  

[wilkins]

was going to add but forgot and now out of time , add protein powder or a few peas on sunday if the race has been hard, (got timed out on my edit)

should be no need for fats in the mix as the distance will not be that far for the babies

[leighton1984]

fat is very good for pigeons at the right time to use it

[wilkins]

yes  leighton agree ,but it has to be used im not to sure that it will be of any use for ybs in the shorter flights , maybe a lttle sunflower could be added, but i have a little rape in the mix as well

since i used the rape i have saved money on oils which are sold for feathering of which i was very keen on but the feather quality of the ybs is just as good

[leighton1984]

they is that many grains to feed are pigeons what the best mix.

i think we need to check are birds by hand and by eye only way.

[Guest slugmonkey]

I am feeding a TON of protien during racing

my race mix has

peas 30%

hemp

wheat

sunflower hearts

corn 10%

I am also adding high protien infant formula as well

I am giving this 3 days before race also lots of yeast as the B vitamins help digest the protien

[wilkins]

I am feeding a TON of protien during racing

my race mix has

peas 30%

hemp

wheat

sunflower hearts

corn 10%

I am also adding high protien infant formula as well

I am giving this 3 days before race also lots of yeast as the B vitamins help digest the protien

 

what do you feed on prior to the 3 days is it a lighter diet? thanks

 

[Guest slugmonkey]

I wouldnt say lighter and certainly not what you would call a depurative

[Ronnie]

i was allways told protein for repairing and carbs for energy.Also the fats (the right sort of fats)contain slow release energy like Peanuts and oats.

Slugmonkey do you carb load for the distance race's?

[Guest slugmonkey]

NO I give fat and protien for all races there are two types of muscle fast and slow the fast burn protien and the bigger groups burn fat and carbs then protien if birds have a lot of dissolved fat in system they will burn these first and these are also cleaner burning than carbs since I started giving more fat and protien my results have improved dramatically

[Guest slugmonkey]

NO I give fat and protien for all races there are two types of muscle fast and slow the fast burn protien and the bigger groups burn fat and carbs then protien if birds have a lot of dissolved fat in system they will burn these first and these are also cleaner burning than carbs since I started giving more fat and protien my results have improved dramatically

[Tony C]

NO I give fat and protien for all races there are two types of muscle fast and slow the fast burn protien and the bigger groups burn fat and carbs then protien if birds have a lot of dissolved fat in system they will burn these first and these are also cleaner burning than carbs since I started giving more fat and protien my results have improved dramatically

 

I believe your race program is much more punishing than ours in the UK. If you could put up your program (miles) it would give me a better understanding on the why's and whatfors on the way you feed. Cheers.

[Guest slugmonkey]

hold on will take a minute to get last years OB sched I will be right back

[Guest slugmonkey]

YB's

100

150

200

300

100

200

150

350

[Guest slugmonkey]

OB"s

100

200

300

130*

400

500

600

200

500

 

* was supposed to be 200 but due to weather was pulled to 130

[Guest slugmonkey]

I had more than 1/2 of Ybs on all races

and had 4 or more OB's went all races

also had #3 marathon tripe crown which to qualify had to fly 2 x 500 and 1 x 600 had 4 birds that went in this

only about 60 birds in whole nation qualified

on last YB 350 had 30 day birds in whole club 19 were mine I drove race came home late was like 11th -19th on 1 race and was 2 -13th ish on 2nd race

[Tony C]

Thanks