breeding mix

[adam owen]

is maize a must in a breeding mix ???? iam going to make up my own breeding mix this year and im wondering on a few grains .at mo ive got mixed peas beans wheat not sure on the percentages yet and pellets at a rate of 25%

[demolition man]

is maize a must in a breeding mix ???? iam going to make up my own breeding mix this year and im wondering on a few grains .at mo ive got mixed peas beans wheat not sure on the percentages yet and pellets at a rate of 25%

 

i like to add maple peas

[adam owen]

i was under the impression maple peas was bad for the liver ???

[Guest peter.j]

is maize a must in a breeding mix ???? iam going to make up my own breeding mix this year and im wondering on a few grains .at mo ive got mixed peas beans wheat not sure on the percentages yet and pellets at a rate of 25%

 

try the calculator on the home page itll give u an idea of wots wot

[demolition man]

i was under the impression maple peas was bad for the liver ???

 

never hurt my birds and ive won out to 593mls once the become old birds consistantly

 

 

[adam owen]

i lookedc cudnt see it mate

[Guest IB]

Maize is one of the things in a breeding mix that birds rearing youngsters will always avoid. Doing same as yourself this year, mixing my own. Staple diet will be beans, maples & tares in a gallipot, topped up with tit-bits of wheat, barley & hormoform fed in a smaller pot.

 

 

[adam owen]

yea i thought that why pay 13pond a bag when they dont eat half of it just give them what they need as alot of mixes have grains they dnt need its also cheeper id say to do this

[Guest peter.j]

http://www.pigeonbasics.com/downloads/grains2.exe

try this

[adam owen]

its just something someone said bout them each to its own i surpose

[demolition man]

its just something someone said bout them each to its own i surpose

 

i like useing baby milk on the food aswell makes em grow, and a few peanuts but i've heard there no good like i say no problems here

 

regards

 

 

[adam owen]

same ya withe maples people av diff opinions like i mite try the milk tho

[dwh]

i was under the impression maple peas was bad for the liver ???

 

maples are a source of extra protein we use beans to much  protein causes protein poison  never had it though and use beans all year

[cowman]

i mix my own 50% wheat with 50% high protein 19% pheasant rearing pellets birds do well don`t get fat and young sqabs can digest it well.

[adam owen]

the pheasant pellets wat percent are the protein in them when u say high protein wat grains do u use

[adam owen]

what u feed there is 119%  a percentage is only 100% so this feed is unbalanced surley ????

[cowman]

read it properley adam 50%+50% =100% the pellets are 19%protein not another 19% added on so with wheat being 15.2% and the pellets being 19% protien that is 34.2% protein

[adam owen]

it doesnt say that tho read it back to your self see if you  can see where im coming from  :-/

[Guest Owen]

adam,

25% pellets are too much in my opinion. Be careful with brown grains,ie peas and beans. They contain tanin which is a poison. Some say that birds can get protein poisoning. I think it is an over use of tinin based feeds. Maize is OK in the nest but you will find that a lot of parents will not want to feed it to the young. I like a mixture containing a variety of small seeds. Make sure you give the feeding parents a small number of peanuts. It is important to make sure that the youngsters are given the taste because the peanuts are invaluable for later.

After weaning I think you should not feed maize but feed grade barley is a must. Do not use malting barley because it is not suitable for livestock.

Once you have got them on the road and training well, give them plate maize in the mix and at least 50% barley. You know how my birds exercise and that is what they get. My view is that when the birds are flying a couple of hours at exercise and training they need carbohydrates.

[blackdog]

yea i thought that why pay 13pond a bag when they dont eat half of it just give them what they need as alot of mixes have grains they dnt need its also cheeper id say to do this

 

adam, if your birds are leaving the maize in your mix your putting to much down for them, try feeding 3 or 4 times a day if possible putting down a small amount at a time till they eat it all up

 

[adam owen]

my granch trever cook and a few other oldies told me to always add 25%pellets so thats what ive alwaysed done dnt no if im right or they are but the results speak for them selfs what you saying about the tanin ive heered off alot of flyers dnt no for fact my self but trust your oppinian as you are a underated GENIUS   ;)

[adam owen]

blackdog will take that on board its some times impossible for me too do that i will have to get my mrs a loft jacket and a corn tin i think lol ;D ;D

[ALF]

Mines will get horse beans in the pots in the boxes with layer pellets and breeding mix in the trough

[frank-123]

Mines will get horse beans in the pots in the boxes with layer pellets and breeding mix in the trough

 

going to try layer pellets this year after advice from mr brown

bamfords breed and wean and layer pellets

[ALF]

 

going to try layer pellets this year after advice from mr brown

bamfords breed and wean and layer pellets

 

I've fed layer pellets for the last 3 yrs but not the bamford wans