colours and description

[Guest bigbok]

not sure if i have posted this i the right section thought i would show a few photos to explain and show the difference in colours that commonly get mistaken for others

remember their is only three basic colours

black/blue most pigeons fall in this section

ashred  second series

brown  very rare

the pictures i posting are to show the difference in the barred patterns barless is very rare in homers in europe

first photos is what racing fanciers call barlless mealy (ashred spread) it is achevied by mating mealys with blacks/smokys it is very variable in colour and comes in loads of different shades

photos 2 is a true barless mealy

photo 3 shows a barless blue and barless silver (dilute blue)

There is four patterns in homers as all pigeons order of dominance is

1 t checker

2 checker

3 barred

4 barless

thanks to dougie cemetary for his help in getting the posts up

neil

[greenlands]

Hi mate,people will always differ on pigeon colours.The hen in the photo I would call a Strawberry mealy,what's your thoughts.Click to enlarge.

Lindsay

[Guest bigbok]

she is a ashred spread hen

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

you still got the barless blues

[greenlands]

Sire a mealy. Dam a blue pied.

Lindsay

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

id love to get hold  of a barless blue

[greenlands]

id love to get hold  of a barless blue

So would I mate,I've bred a few barless mealies but never managed a blue.I had a black cock X yellow pied hen off the late George Gorley , used to breed some belters.

Lindsay

 

 

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

yer ive had loads of barless mealys/ash reds from a black with a mealy but never had a barless blue . i know loueela had loads at one time

[Guest bigbok]

you will only get barrless if both the parents carry barless 1-4 or if they are barless it is the lowest on the dominace table so you need to have it or carry it to express it

[Guest bigbok]

(dizzy)(dizzy)

[micko and jack]

hi mo chara (my friend) a long with my grandson jack 2 we only keep fantails for us to enjoy i was looking a mealy fantail and was told cross a blue and a red we did that this season and got what i would call a dirty coloured mealy i was hoping for a nice light coloured mealy the sort that looks allmost cream in colour with the bars any ideas what i should cross thanks chara mick

what we have

[micko and jack]

the colour we would like to get

[mark croker]

its not like painting mate,  you cant just cross and hope you get what you want,   What you would be best doing is  crossing a mealy racer with a white fantail, imo,   most of the time you just get young the same  colour as the parents not a mix

[micko and jack]

its not like painting mate,  you cant just cross and hope you get what you want,   What you would be best doing is  crossing a mealy racer with a white fantail, imo,   most of the time you just get young the same  colour as the parents not a mix

 

it was a red and blue fantails i crossed no homers

[mark croker]

yea,  i dont know what i was thinking   sorry,  you could just get a mealy fantail if you was going to do that,  :B

[Guest beautyhomer]

its not like painting mate,  you cant just cross and hope you get what you want,   What you would be best doing is  crossing a mealy racer with a white fantail, imo,   most of the time you just get young the same  colour as the parents not a mix

 

You would have no idea what colour and pattern genes the white is masking so the colours of the offspring would be a lottery.

[Guest bigbok]

if you want birds the same colours as the ASR  you just posted is very easy kepping mating the mealy bars together and stay away from blue or spread coloured birds the colour will become pure and will lighten up real quickly two three generation at most

[Guest bigbok]

beauty homer is right white is not a colour only a bird devoid of melamin it could be any colour or pattern under their

[mark croker]

true,  same with any colour then,

[Guest bigbok]

no it is not true

[micko and jack]

if you want birds the same colours as the ASR  you just posted is very easy kepping mating the mealy bars together and stay away from blue or spread coloured birds the colour will become pure and will lighten up real quickly two three generation at most

 

could you explain this a bit easier for me to understand

are you saying breed the red and blue and then pair the brother to the sister providing they are both dirty mealy in colour

[Guest bigbok]

mark it would be impossible to breed a mealy from a pr of blues

but  a white could breed both depending on how it is bred !!!!

[fred x]

Hi mate,people will always differ on pigeon colours.The hen in the photo I would call a Strawberry mealy,what's your thoughts.Click to enlarge.

Lindsay

 

 

Yes Lindsey   A Strawberry Mealy

 

 

[Guest bigbok]

yer you could do it this way

or you could mate the young back to the red but keep away from the black/blue coz this wil keep it dark and not as clear and light as you want

[mark croker]

you cant say that that colour will breed that colour,   its just not that simple.  i have bred white with colours loads of times and most of the time you will get a white and a colour young bird, MOST OF THE TIME, i am not saying all of the time,  I know about dominant alleles and recessive alleles and normally darker colours will show over lighter colours,  NORMALLY,  That is why i said what i said,  i mean you have more of a chance that way,  JMO,