schouwman71 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 has anybody ever used tic beans to fly there widowhood cock for sprinting,i used this method a few years ago and flew very well acheiving some top combine results as i hopper fed due to long hours at work,there condition was unbelievable,just wondered if any body else has tried this as a very top class fancier told me to do this.
andy Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 I ALWAYS INTRODUCE BEANS TO MY WIDOWERS WHEN THEY GET OUT TO 250 MILES ON A SUN,MON,TUE MIXED IN WITH THE WIDOWHOOD MIX AT ABOUT 10-15%
westburylofts Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I Know of one partnership that raced all there birds on tic beans only, they did well on them winning over £2000 in prize money from sprint races all the way through to 600 miles. think they flew a form of roundabout. i tell you they took some beating and no they did not live in a favourable loft location. RAY
schouwman71 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Posted January 10, 2006 Thanx for that,i flew my widowhood cock that way a few years ago and its the best ive ever flown,trying new systems has led me away from that way but think ime gonna try it again this year.
Guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Well, in accordance with 'must do better' report card for 2005, and a few posts from Rose on her use of Tic Beans, went over to them back end of last year. Reckon 12 weeks or so now, and am quite pleased with the way birds are. Basically adopted as their staple diet, supplemented by hormoform. Looking forward to 2006 breeding & racing.
snowy Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 been reading up on the "just beans" can you buy them by the pre packed bag, like the normal mixes?
perk Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 i have been feeding beans,barly and a winter mix since the moult finished, half the price of what i normaly use. the birds look and exersise better. first time i,ve used beans and barly for many years, this is due to shortage of money at the moment,may be i,ve fed to much?
Guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 been reading up on the "just beans" can you buy them by the pre packed bag, like the normal mixes? Buckton's do 20kg bags of english maple peas, and tic beans, and maize. Think all 'the others' will do similar singles too Snowy.
snowy Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 cheers bruno, just thinking about it at the moment, maybe at the end of this season i might give it ago, but reading more into it first. thanks
Guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 i have been feeding beans,barly and a winter mix since the moult finished, half the price of what i normaly use. the birds look and exersise better. first time i,ve used beans and barly for many years, this is due to shortage of money at the moment,may be i,ve fed to much? Humble opinion, but if the birds are looking, handling and exercising well, sounds to me like you've got it spot-on.
perk Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 bruno i think like some things in pigeon racing you stumble on good things by chance to suit your own birds,this is my first season where i can let the birds out every day in the winter. this is the best they have been for years but i,ll wait till racing to see if any benifit is gained
Guest Silverwings Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 any of you bean people tried soya beans ? Mr Vandenabeele uses them ! they seem to have all the right stuff in them ?
PIGEON_MAN Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 I SEEM TO REMEMBER GOING BACK ABOUT 40-45 YEARS THAT EVERYONE USED BEANS BUT I GUESS WITH ALL THE MIXTURES THAT STARTED TO COME ONTO THE MARKET PEOPLE BEGAN TO TRY THESE OUT AND BEAN FEEDING SEEMED TO CEASE.I DECIDED TO GO BACK TO THEM ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND NOW FEED 50% BEANS ALL THE TIME.LAST YEAR I FED THEM TO MY WIDOWHOOD COCKS AND HAD THE BEST SEASON I HAVE EVER HAD FROM START TO FINISH.SNOWY I GET MY BEANS STRAIGHT OFF A FARM WHICH IS AROUND THE REDDITCH AREA NOT TO FAR FOR YOU TO GO AND AT £4.00 A BAG YOU CANT GO WRONG.
Pompey Mick Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 I've used beans in the hopper since I started racing pigeons in 1963. I find they are a good self regulating feed i.e. the pigeons dont like them that much. I can leave a hopper full of beans in with the YB and control them with mixture easily. My birds are on hopper-fed beans at the moment and that will be the main feed when they rear their young. I always put beans in the nest boxes to get the babies used to them. I purchase mine locally ,recleaned ,at £5.00 a bag. They seem to have stayed at that price for the last 10 yrs. I do use a widowhood mix during racing but I top up with beans.
jimmy white Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 beans are a great scource of protein and are quite cheap, but i beleive there are good beans and bad beans, depending on the harvest, and the way they are stored, ideal for the moult , feeding ybs and distance birds , even sprint birds can easily be kept fit on beans, if worked well, but i would preffer to add a lighter mix for them, thats why i fed on the floor and in the boxes, for a variety of reasons, as my distance birds and my sprint birds were in the same loft
speedbird Posted January 16, 2006 Report Posted January 16, 2006 im going to banfords 2m to get some distance mix along with beans for my distance team
Pompey Mick Posted January 16, 2006 Report Posted January 16, 2006 I agree with Jimmy, bean fed pigeons need to work. The best team of YB I have ever owned were Bean fed with a controlled hopper. They flew out once a day in the evening and within a minute they were out of sight and I wouldn't see them again for approx an hour when they would return and away they would go again flying between one and threequarter and two and a half hours nightly. The would really fly just like a training flight. I even had a mid-week sprint race while they were out excercising one evening. As I said they were hopper fed but the hopper was removed early morning till they trapped in that night. Out of curiosity I decided to weigh the corn and check how much they were eating, it worked out at nearly an ounce and three-quarters each! Those youngsters won 7 out of 9 races that year from 50 mls to 210 mls. I am not saying that beans alone win you races but they certainly do no harm and they are a very economic feed. Perhaps we should end this thread because if beans come back into fashion the prices will surely rise.
speedbird Posted January 17, 2006 Report Posted January 17, 2006 year old tic beans were £7.65 which have come down in price compared with recent years
MsPigeon Posted January 17, 2006 Report Posted January 17, 2006 I can't really comment on feeding only beans as I have never done it. But I would certainly worry that the birds are getting all they need as I always figured variety was the best. Feeding variety not only to my pigeons but also to all my pets and myself. Seems like a better way to ensure all the vitamins and minerals etc are gotten.
MsPigeon Posted January 18, 2006 Report Posted January 18, 2006 That's very interesting Rose. Do they never get any other feed though?
schouwman71 Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Posted January 27, 2006 Thanx every one for their comments on beans ,its been very infomative to me just to see that i was not alone feeding beans to my birds and getting results.
slatey Posted January 27, 2006 Report Posted January 27, 2006 Hi all All of my pigeons are fed beans. stock birds 365 days ayear, ob/ybs all the time apart from racing season.£3.30 per 25kg bag from farm. tomo
jimmy white Posted January 28, 2006 Report Posted January 28, 2006 hi slatey, thats a lot cheaper than the "gullable human beans spend" ;D ;D ;D if their decent beans , youve got yourself a bargain. ;D ;D ;D
Guest WINGS 04 Posted January 28, 2006 Report Posted January 28, 2006 i pay £5.20 a bag of tic beans from newmaines mapels £6.50 a bag
Guest Posted January 28, 2006 Report Posted January 28, 2006 One problem is sourcing local suppliers. If you've to travel then what you pay at t'mill isn't the true cost ... you've your time & motoring costs to add too. Pity there's no delivery. Was considered 'all part of the service' at one time.
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