naedoos Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 anybody tried the personnal ionisers always wear it when driving whilst training the birds, not sure if it helps but certainly no do any harm
Guest Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 best advice offered naedoo get tested and wear amask :-/ and get your own nurse,
naedoos Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 and get your own nurse, ;D ;D ;D aye, big thanks tae clocky's missus
dwh Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 and get your own nurse, i'll need an inhaler not MASK
Guest Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 ;D ;D ;D aye, big thanks tae clocky's missus aye dracula ;D ;D ;D ;D
naedoos Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 aye dracula ;D ;D ;D ;D aye, took a fair whack right enough ;D ;D ;D went tae the doctors 3 weeks later, telt me a wis anaemic ;D ;D ;D
billy_g Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 was having lot of chest infections so referred to consultant had blood test which showed high levels of proteins from pigeons but was told everybody in contact like us or most of us will have a positive result but will not automatically develop acual pigeon lung thats what happened to me chest infections for months on end now pigeon lung
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 anybody tried the personnal ionisers Yes I have one which I bought at Blackpool last year from Dazer works to a certain extent , but also wear a mask as well
Guest tom123 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 last had bloods done in blackpool three years ago count came back has 118 ,since then lost 3/4 use of right lung but have opened up the lofts with a full size aviary on the front so hopeful for a lower score this time
Guest strapper Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 just imagine how the birds feel (stock) enclosed in that all the time. i have aviarys on my stock shed..where they hang out nearly all day. plus i have a wire door going into the shed so air can rush through. believe this or not, but ground covering actually cuts dust movement down. the dust settles on the covering instead of blowing about as much if no covering, flights(aviary) on lofts are essential to cut down the dust ..as most birds will fluff up outside in the flight and the wind will blow it away.
Guest snookbri Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 smoke cigarettes and the chances of catching it are almost nil, [ but the cancer kills you ] After suffering with breathing difficulties in the last 4/5 months, and having all the tests going, including PFL, the lung specialist concluded (after CT scan) that i had Emphysema (smoking related),so could be some truth in above statement. I felt sure my breathing difficulties would be pigeon related and was relieved that was not the case,but he did advise wearing a mask in and around the pigeons,and to PACK IN SMOKING. Guess what my New Year Resolutions include?
gulkie Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 i was lead to beleive it is not the dust or the bloom but the spours from the droopings, my friend was told this a number of years ago at blackpool by the people that do the testing,and he finished up keeping pigeons ,i do beleive that not everyone is prone to catching it.
Guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 I didn't think mine would've been so high it was around 50 something, I'd have to find the letter to let you know just how it was. The blood tests that we conduct give the level of circulating antibody to pigeon protein. This indicates the fanciers sensitivity to the birds in mcg/ml. 0 to 5: No sensitisation Any symptoms are unrelated to pigeon lung. 6 to 20: Mild At this level, some people can develop mild symptoms. It is important to use a mask if there are chest difficulties, particularly when cleaning out the loft. This will usually control any pigeon lung problems. 21 to 50: Moderate At this level of antibody, symptoms of pigeon lung often occur. They can be mild or moderate in severity and it is advisable to wear a mask when with the pigeons and always when cleaning out. 51 to 100: High Symptoms of pigeon lung usually occur and can be severe. It is most important to take proper precautions when with the pigeons. Mask, cap and coat should used routinely and the level of contact with the birds should be reduced. 0ver 100: Very high Most people at this level, have problems with pigeon lung. A mask is mandatory and a cap with coat should also be routine. Contact with birds must also be reduced. If symptoms are present, drug treatment might also be needed to control the problem. mine was 56, :B :B :B
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 The blood tests that we conduct give the level of circulating antibody to pigeon protein. This indicates the fanciers sensitivity to the birds in mcg/ml. 0 to 5: No sensitisation Any symptoms are unrelated to pigeon lung. 6 to 20: Mild At this level, some people can develop mild symptoms. It is important to use a mask if there are chest difficulties, particularly when cleaning out the loft. This will usually control any pigeon lung problems. 21 to 50: Moderate At this level of antibody, symptoms of pigeon lung often occur. They can be mild or moderate in severity and it is advisable to wear a mask when with the pigeons and always when cleaning out. 51 to 100: High Symptoms of pigeon lung usually occur and can be severe. It is most important to take proper precautions when with the pigeons. Mask, cap and coat should used routinely and the level of contact with the birds should be reduced. 0ver 100: Very high Most people at this level, have problems with pigeon lung. A mask is mandatory and a cap with coat should also be routine. Contact with birds must also be reduced. If symptoms are present, drug treatment might also be needed to control the problem. mine was 56, :B :B :B when I was first checked about 8 years ago my count was over 200, but because I now use a mask and an ioniser the last check a couple of weeks ago the count was 140, still drastically high but it is going the right way albeit very slowly, and it has helped with the lofts being very open at the front with plenty fresh air circulating within the lofts .
Guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 I was in hospital for 3 weeks in 1997 with PFL god knows what the count was then :B :B :B :B
DOVEScot Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 aye dracula ;D ;D ;D ;D If Doreen is Dracula you must be Ygor ;D ;D ;D
marmite Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 stripp the front of ur loft off and mesh it but put a big overhang on ur roof to stop alot of rain gettin in plenty of air
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