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The bird with the bad wing is damaged the joint is swolen and black, which is said to be connected to bruising, taped up her wing and she is doing fine, but not ruled anything out till tests come back, still isolated The bird that was tested was 23 days old, its nest mate is showing no signs of illness so far Our bird was handed in on friday to the lab, the vet carried out a full postmortem and found only small infection, nothing concerning waiting on results of cultures Do you have to cull all your birds if its the worst (Paramyxo) or is there any hope to treat the ones left please

The above pigeon is a picture from web site

Newcastle Disease Home > Media Centre > Briefing Sheets > Newcastle Disease WHAT IS NEWCASTLE DISEASE (ND)? WHICH BIRDS DOES IT AFFECT? Newcastle disease is a highly contagious disease of birds caused by a paramyxo virus. Birds affected by this disease are fowls, turkeys, geese, ducks, pheasants, guinea fowl and other wild and captive birds, including ratites such as ostriches, emus and rhea. HOW IS IT SPREAD? The virus is present in the exhaled air, secretions and faeces of infected birds, both before they show signs of illness and while they are convalescent. Spread is mainly by movement of birds and manure, and such as people, vehicles etc. contaminated by manure. CAN HUMANS GET IT? The Health Protection Agency has confirmed that Newcastle Disease virus does not pose a significant threat to human health even when people handle birds known to be infected. WHAT ARE THE SIGNS? Virulent ND virus infections are most likely to cause some or all of the following signs in poultry: Respiratory signs: gasping and coughing Nervous signs: drooping wings, dragging legs, twisting of the head and neck, ataxia or circling, depression, anorexia, complete paralysis Partial or complete cessation of egg production Eggs are misshapen, rough-shelled, thin-shelled and contain watery albumen Greenish watery diarrhoea Swelling of the tissues around the eyes and in the neck The proportion of birds which become ill or die depends on the virulence of the virus strain, degree of vaccine immunity, environmental conditions, and condition of the flock. WHAT HAPPENS IF DISEASE IS CONFIRMED? When disease is confirmed restrictions are imposed on the infected place and movement restrictions and biosecurity measures are enforced. The birds on the premises are slaughtered. In addition, a Declaratory Order is made declaring an Infected Area and establishing a surveillance zone of 10 km and a smaller Protection Zone around the infected premises to impose restriction to prevent the spread of disease. The State Veterinary Service traces all known contacts connected with the infected birds. WHAT SHOULD FARMERS DO NOW? Farmers need to ensure that they are vigilant looking for signs of disease and ensure that they report any suspicions to their local Animal Health Divisional Office. All keepers of birds should ensure they maintain high standards of biosecurity and consider whether they wish to vaccinate in consultation with their vet advisors.

photo of bird on above site

A young pigeon still in the nest showed signs of head tilt. I took it alive to the bush vetenery labs to have it tested, they carried out a post mortem on it, nothing found, only a slight infection in the lung area We don't race pigeons, most of which rarely fly out of sight, never seen a street/ferel pigeon once in my area Waiting on further results but worried about paramyxo Chickadee really takes good care or her birds and would be devastated if we had to cull them Paramyxo or New-Castle disease is a very widespread disease in the pigeon world. In Belgium, in case of a paramyxo-infection, you are obliged to submit a declaration to the government office of this very contagious infection. Mostly pigeons during moulting season, exhausted and late young are very susceptible. Not or bad vaccinated pigeons always run a great risk. Drinking a lot Watery droppings Typical turned head Shock reaction Disturbance of balance Pecking next to the food -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Duration = 1-3 months After healing a good performance is still possible Some pigeons have permanent damage (turned neck, watery droppings) Typical turned head Curative (= in case of illness): NONE (= you are obliged to submit a declaration to the government office!!) We can prevent a dehydration caused by the watery droppings by administering FORTALYT in the drinking water Prevention: Annual vaccination of all healthy pigeons starting after 4 weeks of age Important: In Belgium the vaccination for PARAMYXO is obligatory for all race and fancy pigeons

40 years ago a lot of young boys started off with ferel pigeons, they have all the ailments but build up antibodies or they don't survive, the strong become stronger. racing/show strains are being genetically reproduced and kept alive unaturally therefore more susceptable to illness

Ah be mair worried about life ending as you know it, if ah wiz you Tammy ;D ;D ;D Happy birthday Alf fae the Dan Clan

What then????

Is there anyplace I can get more info on them please

If you still have them, theres a guy called Billy Mckechnie from Thornton who would love them, he is a gem of a guy who has cancer and loves everything pigeon related

Sad but true, if everyone was honest we would not need clocks and ets, we would just record our honest times and everyone would be full of joy for our fellow fanciers ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The only possible thing would be for stock birds as the rings would stop them from showing, or sell them on to new starts via classifieds :-/

I think a lot of fancies originated from India, they have doocots the size of houses,

She says you'd be easy because your special house coat on with the buckles up the back, only thing that will save you is the padded walls in your room ;D ;D ;D

AYE when ah was a smithy ma birds used to steal the girders ;D ;D ;D

ma doos are into bondage I think, the keep using cable ties for nesting ;D

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Just past there tonight, Chickadees dad is from Damhead, now in Pennicuik, Took pigeon to lab at the Bush for testing :'(

If you were as lippy as tammy them you deserved it ;D ;D ;D

Aye but if something goes wrong as it may do, you are then dealing with more than one company, maybe three or more from the south east to the north east of the uk Maybe the best chance would be all to agree terms and have a "call centre" to co-ordinate things then one finger on the pulse

Ma bird is as hard as nails and she's going to punch your your lights oot for your lip ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Aye but that leaves the opportunity to blame someone else

The best way would be to franchise it or any other, but then again that's one of the problems with Amtrak Although if it was a pigeon/bird/pet only then you would might be on to a winner

I think if you are moving your own birds as we about to do when our new loft is completed, it's not as bad, we are trying to move them in stages like when they finnish rearing, seperating cocks and hens, young birds into new section etc. It's different when buying in birds, we made the big mistake in the beginning by being too keen and buying too many birds at the one time, trying to get a number of strains to breed but found out to our pearl we also brought in all the different immune systems. All good birds in their own right but they could not cope with all the different strains mixing

Lighten up Jimmy, Take a chill pill, even Bruno takes them sometimes, its the general pigeon board, not the board of ICI ;D ;D ;D