DOVEScot

Tammy, Because not only does he know his birds, he has a big heart, a great sence of humour, takes all the blows posted, can answer all your comments funny or serious, keeps ma wee chickadee occupied so she leave me alone, gives newbes birds for nowt, sells decent birds at a reasonable price. A 110% pigeonman even though he is a dafty but in no way is he is stupid Tammy We all love ewe :K)

Exactly, it's the same in any sport, organisation or forum I used to coach judo and spent as much time on begginers as black belts or champions, because that we snotty nosed beginner could be a world champion someday, ended up with umteen scottish and two british champions in my club Imagine if I put him up against one of ma wee growlers, high chance he would never be seen again

Why remove it, if it started as a bit of fun then it raises valid points then it should stay:-/

Having worked in America, you have a different lifestyle all together, While in pheonix we thought nothing about driving hundreds of miles to get something or see someone or do something on straight roads as far as the eye can see, you can jump on an internal flight with your dog or cat and have it in the seat next to you, can catch a red eye for 10 bucks and travel the length of europe to look at other pigeons if you want UPS America would be like us having Amtrak Europe $30 or £15 any where delivered or your money back if contract not fulfilled plus compensation, This I know because I had an account with UPS Europe, unfortunately don't carry pigeons like their American counterparts do Uk is different you leave inverness, you travel down a major road call the A9 that is one lane the most of the way, 60mph max if your not stuck behind a tractor or a Sunday driver, wait two hours to get across the forth road bridge, hit road work on the M8, then road works on the M74, then again on the M6. to cap it all you are stuck at Manchester then Birmingham then the biggest car park in Europe the M25 for another zillion hours So instead of 20 hours of driving 600 miles you take a chance and buy in new stock from a guy in london by amtrak and the only way you can highlight your delight or disapointment is on sites like these :-/ Plus I forgot about deception arter travelling all these miles, aint that right Pigeonpete

Slugmonkey it was me that said it I stand by the statement because it is true That does not mean all veterans are rank, but the plain and simple truth is that on this site you attain the rank of veteran by the number of posts you post, not by any other means So it does not matter if you post ten of the the best help pigeon related topics known to man then you are just a newbe If you come on the site and talk utter crap 500 times then you become a veteran, some people might think I am one of them, because I like some banter, but I have been part of a number of interesting posts as well Salmonella, Meningitis, Loft hygiene, and many more and have learned a lot from it, and along the way made mistakes like anyone else I have also met and made some very good friend on the site as well The old saying, you can do good all your life, but if you get caught making love to one sheep then that's all people will remember you for, "polite version" ;D Best regards DOVEScot

Doo wee get a freee bag with ooors ;D ;D ;D

But you know that will not happen Jimmy unless you police sales, then a lot of people will still post birds, plus you are forgetting this is a pigeon site not just for racing, it is for all fanciers, Ma Wee Chickadee widnae know a good racer from bad one, I could ootrun half of her pigeons

Again if you know the ropes its easy, I feel sorry for the ones knocked out as soon as they come into the ring See a bird for sale, nice picture, don't have a clue about sellers, pedigrees, race results ect, just keen to get started, realise you should have read the small print or done your homework, we have all done it When I was a boy we had about 5-10 lofts in each street of a mining community, now some places you are lucky to get 5-10 lofts in the town, and young people are using the internet to access information, punch in "pigeon" and you get the site no problem Pigeon men do not need the site to sell pigeons because it collective sport and ones results are known amoungst the community of pigeon men

Great idea

Again novices and inexperienced would not know how to use all that information. I came on the site as a newbe and seen "veteran of the loft" automatically thought they were just what it implies, a well experienced veteran that knows about lofts/birds ect. soon realised you could become one by constantly posting crap and getting your post counts up so you become one I have learned by my mistakes and bad judgements all my life, but at least I have learned a thing or two, and still making them as you will soon find out. You can't expect everyone to learn the ropes until you have been in every corner of the ring, believe me you soon learn when your stuck in one getting lumps punched out you 8) 8) 8)

That's ok if you are experienced or in hind site, but not if you are new to the game, these con men get away with it for loads of reasons, but why have a forum for selling pigeons then grumble if someone uses it The webmaster can but down rules for sale of items and if you don't abide by them then you can't grumble on the site, but as yet don't know of any rules that exsist Trouble with an open forum you will always get abuse

Yer right Bruno, this site is getting clogged up with a lot of crap, Roland's no getting in ma band bye the way, you can keep him

Best form of defence is attack Bruno I have never been pulled up yet, problems with you in the past were cleared up and I apologised openly on the site as you did to me when you made a mistake about me If I make a mistake, as we all do I am man enough to admit it and to post it on the site and not in a PM I admit like I enjoy the banter and have even seen you join in at times too Can you name the band of mine that you would like to join me and act elsewhere please Never sold a bird on the site by the way, so not part or SELLINGBASICS.COM

Just run it fair and properly then you have no room for real criticism, Have a sin bin if someone is not towing the line then block them for a time till they learn, BUT MAKE IT FAIR AND CONSISTANT NOT AN INDIVIDUAL DECISION But bear in mind you have proper forums to post on Things for sale/wanted so why criticise when some one posts Chit chat, define chit chat ?????? that will be a good one Racing forum, why does this make up the main board and never gets moved, it is called "PIGEON BASICS" not "RACING PIGEON BASICS" What about the keepers and fanciers that never race Banter you will never stop, the problem is that one persons banter is another persons poison, especially when they have to eat it themselves, they are not long in calling in the referees Why can't you question God and his deciples are they not made in the image of men, capable of mistakes and indiscretions like us mere mortals?

Till they have a tipple ;D ;D ;D

Aye phoned today, it's Amtrak Broxburn 01 506 858 858 for future ref

Happy birthday to Ma Wee Chickadee XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Love :K) :K) :K) DOVEScot XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Cheers again Ferry ;D

As you can see in the pic(taken facing south) that the trees are not in our garden also the have a preservation order on all the trees as we stay in a conservation area. :'( Would love to cut them back ;D

We are rife with moss due to the shade of the trees,and weeds from the fields, so we need something to treat the grass :'(

Now that we have a dovecote on the grass area, is there any safe weed and feed type of suppliments or ones that we should avoid that harm the birds Hope you late birds can answer please ;D ;D ;D AdSense, Amiee, billy_g, billymac, birdman4610, Calfhall Lofts, carp777, chickadee, DOVEScot, EAGLEOWL, Ed Bourque, homebird, invincible_spirit, j.bamling, jimmy white, johnny11, klinkley, majorpet, Marky5, mark, phillips, pigeonpete, rembrant2coo, Sajfos, shalis lofts, sherlock, sky, soontjen21, square_peg, the fifer, xtccock, Yahoo! Bot

Aye thanks very much for the FREE LOFT and the FREE BIRDS you gave to Cabin Boy, glad I could help a little bit back by taking away all your remaining rubbish to the landfill, hope you enjoy the tatties, straight from the field yesterday Top notch, twice we have met him and twice he has given us freebies for Cabin Boy Cheers Ferry DOVEScot

A German Shephard

I hope the periegrine did not have canker ;D ;D ;D

Yes well the police do seem interested, this may be down to the officer that called as well because he was really interested in the pigeons Also hope the fact that anti airgun propaganda at a hieght just now will help. if not then there is more than one way to skin a cat, "Name and shame where it hursts most" by contacting the rest of my neighbours to let them know what type of people live beside us, On the site and let the pigeon community know or in the press if need be :-/