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instead of reading all this crap take your doo to the vet and get it TREATED PROPERLY with the correct medicine either that ask Cher if she has a spare bottle Dr. B Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm UP THE BAGGIES somebody rotten in ure hoose mick?

heard pete on the radio tonight was not the most riveting interview i've heard to be honest but at least he had ago i suppose!

"and for your info [and that of others listening] was used to put down a complaint [from the audience] on a remark Connolly made about 'Highland folk, skyscrapers and post boxes' which a Highlander in the audience found insulting." why on earth you think this information would be news to anyone is beyond me Bruno lad but i'm glad to hear google search was working on your PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"awww who told you wot my day job was ME i write grumpy old farts thinking of featuring you next" careful keef or broonski will moderate you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Typical Gutter so-called wit and humour" everyone in the stands is an expert eh mr.brown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Having read all the comments upto now i have to agree with ME and i look forward to next seasons racing secure in the knowledge that Me will be running upto the post office to take my rings to a central clock or is that to traditional keith" such biting wit and fantastic humour your not a script writer by any chance? your talent may be being wasted here Keith get yourself an agent

"When I time my widowhood cocks in after they have raced they do not even know they have been clocked as they are that keyed up trying to get to the hen they are cooing in your hand and don't even realise you have picked them up." - Beanz exactly Beanz thats where the individual fanciers talent comes into clock and thimble pigeon racing keeping the birds happy and content and trusting in the loft!

"BIT LATE WITH THIS ROLAND " - ALF ALF the pot says the kettles a colonial!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF THAT THE SAME pELICAN THAT SWALLOWED THE PIGEON A MINUTE AGO ITS A GREEDY *expletive removed*!!

IF THATS THE SAME pELICAN THAT SWALLOWED THE PIGEON LAST WEEK IT SHOULD GET AN asbo. Well it should certainly get a good kick anyway!!!!

!WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT???! - Alf some questions don't deserve an answer really, you know like "how does a frog make cheese if its freezer is not working". Honestly i do make them up its jusr for a laugh Alf you know thta way you get when Benfica beat Celtic 2-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

here's one I heard when I was up in Dundee on business last week. 2 Dundonians go into a pie shop in Edinburgh and 1 says to the 2 lassies behind the counter "shows yer pies I want to see if the they are quality or if they are mingin" Both women are helping Police with their enquiries!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK you are right I am a liar I just made that up. That will be another post edited or deleted I suppose!!!!!!!!!

"look back ur posts on this thread and tell me how many u have "me" which are not having a go at someone, shu, scottish fanciers, webmaster etc etc.! - fifer none of them are anti anyone they are all pro doos thats just me I like doos and I hate to see them being made cannon fodder by anyone SHU OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. No wonder Hyacinth is alwas worried in case "activists " are spying on us some of the stuff on here makes me squirm sometime!

"I think I'm the only one that has mentioned the difference on marking nights" - Bruno Thats great Bruno glad your happy but the point is some people like to take part in traditional "clock and thimble" pigeon racing what is wrong with that? Freedom of choice is what it is all about nothing in the new act amending the original legislation makes a criminal out of those who wish to take part in their traditional pastime those who want to do something else good luck to them as well. As I say freedom of choice is what its all about , not people who say I demand to use ETS and I demand you race you pigeons with me as well or I,ll get you banned and threaten you with legal action, that is just nonsense.

"ME also look in thread "LATEST FROM PETER BRYANT" ur replies 20,22,27,33, " - fifer Good God Fifer you have'nt spent the whole night reading my posts for ammunition have you? Do me a favour please, all I said was I was upset with people who have genuine disabilities being used by pigeon people for there own agenda. I would say at this point that my own brother is disabled and more in need of government help than most yet he still works full time, that is when he has not been hospitalised by his illness. I was also upset by Peter Bryant's words posted on this site regarding the amendments to the 1995 act which come into force in December. Unlike most on thie site I have actually read most of the acts,well and pigeon racing particularly timing in pigeons is not affected by the amendments whatsoever,so why say it is. Think about it.!! Don't let your own predujices get in the way and yes before some one asks I am dyslexic(?) but that does'nt make me a bad person but amazingly enough it does make me " disabled" in some respects under the act. What a load of tosh!!

"LOOKING THROUGH "ME" POSTS ITS VERY HARD TO FIND ANYTHING OTHER THAN STIRRING THINGS AND AGRO, CAN,T FIND MUCH ABOUT WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR IN THEM," - fifer you have not really being looking very hard then fifer lets just think about it posts on pigeon health matters ,posts on problems with late breds.posts concerning the darkness system, posts on pigeon welfare and the need for better race controlling etc etc and why you feel it necessary to single me out with your aggressive and snide remarks in post 51 of this thread I don't know. I'm not objecting by the way censorship should be kept to a minimum, but I bet you if I had made those remarks the post would have been edited.

"STILL NOT ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS , WHERE ARE U FROM." thats not a quote from the episode of Fawlty Towers when the Germans are staying at the hotel is it fifer? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"common sence are not exactly common among the people who run pigeons in scotland ???? who are u talking about ?????" well off the top of my head how many people with commom sense could lose about 5000 doos from not much more than 100 mile or how abouts only managing to get one back from a 150 mile race. never mind i"ts an ill wind" at least it will help the hawks through the winter!!

"i think this is an insult to the shu and scottish fanciers." - fifer and your point is caller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"How much longer can we lose 10% of our membership year on year, and keep things status quo?" There is nothing you or i can do to stop the decline in membership Mealy bar our hobby has no long term future if you think ets is going to have any impact on that you are delusional in the exteme. most of the rest of your post is i'm sad to say similar to some of the other nonsense posted on this thread. Stall traps have been in use for a very long time and would allow anyone, disabled or otherwise to time in on an equal basis if they excercised their "choice" to install them but of course that would involve traditional clock and thimble racing and some people don't seem to keen on that on this site!

"ALL THIS SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR TO ME! HEARD IT ALL BEFORE" - fifer I'M sure you have fifer but now we are getting "its ok we can apply for grants everybody can get it, level playing field" soon it will be "everybody but you has an ets you will have to change its too much bother" Which funnily enough i agree with if 99% of a club has ets who wants the bother of manual clock. If 99% want to continue racing and timimg in their birds the way they alwas have that does not make them bad people. they may just be traditionalists. If someone wants to use Ets in Scotland for instance he has plenty of oppotunities . if a person wants to race in a club using traditional clock and thimble methods in scotland he is liable to be banned - is that not discrimination? What an amazing amount of people fail to realise is discrimination is alwas positive, what else could it be. As Redcheqhen said its all about choice!!!

"are you always argumentative ?" - Red cheq hen let me explain red cheq just because I don't agree with your point of view does not mean i am wrong. THIS IS A DISCUSSION FORUM so people of with different opinions post their points of view. nobody and that includes you, slatey and derby lad has even tried to contradict anything i have said. you say having a choice is what it is all about! why is the choice of someone who wants to enjoy what is a traditional past time less valid than anyone elses?

"I'm sorry but I have to disagree." - Derby's Lad "derby lad" just because you say you disagree means absolutely nothing. The bottom line is this will be forced on people who want to enjoy there hobby in a certain way (traditional clock and thimble pigeon racing) who are you or me for that matter to impose that on anybody,is that not discrimination? The genuinely disadvantaged fanciers, old lads for instance are the guys that "doomen" go and pick up to take to the club on a friday night and believe me these lads still like to time in there doos. The only pigeon fanciers I know with disabled car badges are less ailing than I am, although I must admit I am getting on a bit. One of them actually works as a labourer, you could'nt make it up could you!

"like it or not its got to get passed so lets get on with it" - Slatey nonsense, most pigeon clubs you and I know Slatey have no disabled access whatsoever are you seriously suggesting any club that does not try to rectify that situation will be closed, of course your not. THINK ABOUT IT.