i remember when i visited ray knight,he has some stunners all direct they were not all whites but 95% ..camiels results were super.....a guy in my area had them direct he flew them better crossed he told me.... i remember humberbridge stud had a family white tornado s very similar looking massive birds..
just a little info...travipharma products if im correct are the only 1s in holland you can buy in corn shops....others you need go through the vet, this tells me they are not as good as others, that was told 2 me by my dutch friends son ..mick